06 Oct 09
Originally posted by sh76The Iranians have been running rings round the Americans for 30 years. I am rather inclined to interpret relentless references to their alleged insanity as an attempt to disguise this fact.
It's nice to have the luxury of being able to make benefit of the doubt dubious assumptions about crazed religious fundamentalist leaders.
06 Oct 09
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Originally posted by FMFPerhaps. But I wouldn't be willing to bet anything I wouldn't want to lose on the rationality of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Would you?
The Iranians have been running rings round the Americans for 30 years. I am rather inclined to interpret relentless references to their alleged insanity as an attempt to disguise this fact.
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by sh76I'm willing to bet stuff I wouldn't want to lose on the U.S. killing 250,000 innocent Iranians, in a short space of time, at some point in the next decade. So would the Iranians, I bet. And I bet that's why they may well be trying to secure nuclear weapons for themselves. I think Iranian rationality is a far more pressing issue than Iranian irrationality.
Perhaps. But I wouldn't be willing to bet anything I wouldn't want to lose on the rationality of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Would you?
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by FMFI'll take that bet.
I'm willing to bet stuff I wouldn't want to lose on the U.S. killing 250,000 innocent Iranians, in a short space of time, at some point in the next decade.
If, by October 5, 2019, the US has not killed 250,000 or more innocent Iranians within a "short space of time" (oh, what the heck, I'll give you the whole decade), I win. If the US has killed 250,000 or more innocent Iranians, you win.
What do you propose as stakes?
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by sh76I humbly suggest you two agree on what the meaning of the word "innocent" is. Are the thugs gunning down Iranian civilians in the street innocent?
I'll take that bet.
If, by October 5, 2019, the US has not killed 250,000 or more innocent Iranians within a "short space of time" (oh, what the heck, I'll give you the whole decade), I win. If the US has killed 250,000 or more innocent Iranians, you win.
What do you propose as stakes?
Just sayin.
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by sh76Your pile of comic books for my pile of history books. 😀
I'll take that bet. If, by October 5, 2019, the US has not killed 250,000 or more innocent Iranians within a "short space of time" (oh, what the heck, I'll give you the whole decade), I win. If the US has killed 250,000 or more innocent Iranians, you win. What do you propose as stakes?
06 Oct 09
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Originally posted by SleepyguyThe 250,000 innocent Iranians would be ones who are not gunning down Iranian civilians in the street. Who'd mourn the demise of the latter? But I've never seen the U.S. exercising much in the way of discrimination from 30,000 ft.
I humbly suggest you two agree on what the meaning of the word "innocent" is. Are the thugs gunning down Iranian civilians in the street innocent?
06 Oct 09
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Originally posted by FMFIf the New York Daily News is to be believed then Ahmedinejan is just an assimilated version of a Jewish moniker and Ahmedinejans posturing is nothing more than the ramblings of any would be convert who goes hard so as not to arouse any suspiscion!
Your pile of comic books for my pile of history books. 😀
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by kmax87http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/05/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-jewish-family
If the New York Daily News is to be believed then Ahmedinejan is just an assimilated version of a Jewish moniker and Ahmedinejans posturing is nothing more than the ramblings of any would be convert who goes hard so as not to arouse any suspiscion!
Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots
Rumours that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam from Judaism are false. In fact, they are proud Shias
...
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by zeeblebot(taps forfinger on nose) well you would expect the liberal press to protect the identity of "one of their own' now wouldn't you?!?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/oct/05/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-jewish-family
Ahmadinejad has no Jewish roots
Rumours that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's family converted to Islam from Judaism are false. In fact, they are proud Shias
...
06 Oct 09
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Originally posted by FabianFnasIs there anyone who believes that they(the Israeli's) would not exercise more restraint in using that weapon if the need arose?. In terms of likelyhood, which country is more likely to get carried away(Iran or Israel) and let the radiation envelop the region?
Is it still anyone who doesn't believe that Israel doesn't have nuclear mass destruction weapons?
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by kmax87Well, so far Israel has killed thousands of Palestinians and the Iranians have killed...uh... nobody.
Is there anyone who believes that they(the Israeli's) would not exercise more restraint in using that weapon if the need arose?. In terms of likelyhood, which country is more likely to get carried away(Iran or Israel) and let the radiation envelop the region?
So go figure.
06 Oct 09
Originally posted by kmax87Don't you think Israel ever will use their nuclear weapons?
Is there anyone who believes that they(the Israeli's) would not exercise more restraint in using that weapon if the need arose?. In terms of likelyhood, which country is more likely to get carried away(Iran or Israel) and let the radiation envelop the region?
If so, why do they have them in the first place?
Why are everyone afraid that Iran will use their (eventual) nuclear weapons?
If Iran - NO ?
Then Israel - NO !
...in consequence.