Average households pay $20,900 for war.

"The US wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are costing nearly double the amount previously thought, according to a report by Democrats in the US Congress. They say "hidden costs" have pushed the total to about $1.5 trillion - nearly twice the requested $804bn"

"Between 2002 and 2008 the campaigns in Iraq and Afghanistan will have cost the average US family of four about $20,900. The report adds that ...[text shortened]... that flies around here I never really get to see what benefits are gained by the average Joe.

What a bunch of BS!!!! The median Income per person over 14 years old is about 26,000.00
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

Those are the facts and the 20,000 paid per person for the war is a number someone pulled out of their rear end.

A large population pays no tax and as a result nothing to the war or anything else. (Called free loaders)

Originally posted by shavixmir
Wait a second though...

We know Bush has increased military spending, he keeps going back to some or other government office and asking for billions more every couple of months or so.
And you say other spending has increased as well???

But taxes are the same?

Where's all this money comin' fae?

It's called deficit spending! Welcome to the free market!

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Nearly $9 trillion budget deficit perhaps?

Nice try, take a class or something.

Originally posted by Merk
Nice try, take a class or something.

Nice rebuke. Such wit & style.
I especially like the factual references which substantiate your riposte.
Sir, I salute your superior intellect.
🙄

Originally posted by hamltnblue
What a bunch of BS!!!! The median Income per person over 14 years old is about 26,000.00
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States

Those are the facts and the 20,000 paid per person for the war is a number someone pulled out of their rear end.

A large population pays no tax and as a result nothing to the war or anything else. (Called free loaders)

It's called tax law. Doesn't make them freeloaders, just poor. Besides the median family does pay. They just don't pay much, and certainly not $20,000+ for the war.

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
Nice rebuke. Such wit & style.
I especially like the factual references which substantiate your riposte.
Sir, I salute your superior intellect.
🙄

I've got a fact for you, smartguy. Budget deficit and debt are not the same thing.

If you would like the actual numbers for both, I have them posted earlier in this thread.

Originally posted by Merk
Nice try, take a class or something.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4827248.stm

"US President George W Bush has signed a bill to raise the national debt ceiling to nearly $9 trillion (£5.12 trillion).

The bill means the government can borrow a further $781bn and stops what would have been a first ever default of Treasury notes.

In addition, it permits the US to pay for the war in Iraq without increasing taxes or making domestic cuts.

The debt increase, the fourth since Mr Bush came to power, comes as the budget deficit reaches near record levels."

So, according to the BBC the war in Iraq has a direct impact on the US budget deficit.

Originally posted by Merk
Nice try, take a class or something.

Uh, i hope you weren't mawking him. The current US debt is over $9 trillion dollars.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

As proof that the above website is accurate, consider 2 years ago the debt was over $7 trillion.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/08/opinion/main686839.shtml

Originally posted by telerion
It's called tax law. Doesn't make them freeloaders, just poor. Besides the median family does pay. They just don't pay much, and certainly not $20,000+ for the war.

Poor people may not pay income tax but they do pay state sales tax if they live in a state that has a state tax.

But i do love the freeloader comment. You make it sound like poor people have a wonderful life moving through life without a care in the world as they live taking advantage of all of life's modern conveniences and ammenities. Being poor sounds like fun!

Originally posted by Squelchbelch
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4827248.stm

"US President George W Bush has signed a bill to raise the national debt ceiling to nearly $9 trillion (£5.12 trillion).

The bill means the government can borrow a further $781bn and stops what would have been a first ever default of Treasury notes.

[b]In addition, it permits the US to pay ...[text shortened]...
So, according to the BBC the war in Iraq has a direct impact on the US budget deficit.

Notice Auntie Beeb says the debt ceiling, not budget deficit like you did?

Of course the war has an impact of budget deficit. All government spending does. Nobody said otherwise. I'm a little unsure why you would even make that assertion. OR why you would need your Aunt to back you up.

Originally posted by uzless
Uh, i hope you weren't mawking him. The current US debt is over $9 trillion dollars.

http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/

As proof that the above website is accurate, consider 2 years ago the debt was over $7 trillion.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/08/opinion/main686839.shtml

He didn't say debt, he said budget deficit. And you don't need to give me links to any deficit or debt numbers. Least of all from a news site.

Originally posted by uzless
Poor people may not pay income tax but they do pay state sales tax if they live in a state that has a state tax.

But i do love the freeloader comment. You make it sound like poor people have a wonderful life moving through life without a care in the world as they live taking advantage of all of life's modern conveniences and ammenities. Being poor sounds like fun!

You know it would help if you'd follow the thread. The "freeloader" bit wasn't mine. I never said being poor was easy or ever made it seem so.


I swear, this forum is becoming as bad as the garbage spirituality forum it spawned.

Originally posted by Merk
He didn't say debt, he said budget deficit. And you don't need to give me links to any deficit or debt numbers. Least of all from a news site.

I think you know he meant debt. Don't get caught up on semantics.

Originally posted by telerion
You know it would help if you'd follow the thread. The "freeloader" bit wasn't mine. I never said being poor was easy or ever made it seem so.


I swear, this forum is becoming as bad as the garbage spirituality forum it spawned.

I wasn't referring to you Telerion when i wrote "you". I was referring to the person who said it in the previous post. I guess it was a little unclear. My bad, next time i'll state the person's name.

Originally posted by uzless
I think you know he meant debt. Don't get caught up on semantics.

I think he didn't know the difference. If he did he would know that additional military spending has very little to do with a $9 trillion debt ceiling.