News Flash from your monitor: Biden, who is weak, offered to help Zelenskiy escape, run away, flee, let the Russians have his country, Your President did that. It is a fact, as that is all that I am allowed to say on the Forum.
Zelensky told the A-hole that he did not need transportation, he needed armaments.
I think it is good that you members , libs and conservatives, know this weasel, this sad old weakling, before you view the speech tonight. The one where he will say he stopped the virus, when, in fact, we had all GOTTEN the virus, and herd immunity had stopped itself.
Will he dare mention the economy and inflation and crime? We shall see.
#AverageJoe
@mott-the-hoople saidActually, McHill and the ZHAlanzi poster lead the pack on subject changing. Great violators indeed. They are listed in monitor journals which I inherited.
you are bad at trying to change the subject arent you?
are you saying people are not being out $276 more dollars per month?
@mott-the-hoople saidMaybe you should learn how to read; Biden's decision to end the war did cost him politically, but it saved thousands of lives at the very least.
Gee, remember when we were talking about you being concerned with biden being hurt politically, when there were 13 young men that lost their lives.
That makes it an unusually courageous decision for a politician; one the three prior Presidents did not have the guts to do.
@no1marauder saidTrump brokered the deal with the Taliban to withdraw our military. If Trump had gotten a second term the same so called courageous decision would have been made.
Maybe you should learn how to read; Biden's decision to end the war did cost him politically, but it saved thousands of lives at the very least.
That makes it an unusually courageous decision for a politician; one the three prior Presidents did not have the guts to do.
Biden followed the Trump deal to pull out.
@metal-brain saidBS.
Trump brokered the deal with the Taliban to withdraw our military. If Trump had gotten a second term the same so called courageous decision would have been made.
Biden followed the Trump deal to pull out.
Trump had four years to end the occupation and didn't do so.
@no1marauder saidBS
BS.
Trump had four years to end the occupation and didn't do so.
Obama had 8 years if you want to play that silly game.
Are you claiming Trump did not broker the deal to end the occupation?
@metal-brain saidI'm claiming that he did not end the occupation in four years.
BS
Obama had 8 years if you want to play that silly game.
Are you claiming Trump did not broker the deal to end the occupation?
Are you claiming he did?
@no1marauder saidObama had a first term to broker a deal and a second to implement it. What is his excuse?
I'm claiming that he did not end the occupation in four years.
Are you claiming he did?
@metal-brain saidI don't care about your "whataboutism" BS. I already said three Presidents kicked the can down the road because of political cowardice; maybe you should actually read my posts.
Obama had a first term to broker a deal and a second to implement it. What is his excuse?
From p. 2 of this thread:
"Biden also deserves enormous credit for having the courage to end the US fiasco in Afghanistan even though it cost him politically (something three prior Presidents had decided to kick the can down the road rather than face)."
"U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw.
One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the United States to withdraw troops if the Afghan parties are unable to reach agreement or if the Taliban show bad faith" during negotiations."
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2021-08-19/was-biden-handcuffed-by-trumps-taliban-deal-in-doha
It's impossible to know what someone as mercurial and irrational as Trump would have done in the future but we know he did not end the occupation. Biden did.
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@averagejoe1 saidThis is pro forma, when a country is attacked,
News Flash from your monitor: Biden, who is weak, offered to help Zelenskiy escape, run away, flee, let the Russians have his country, Your President did that. It is a fact, as that is all that I am allowed to say on the Forum.
Zelensky told the A-hole that he did not need transportation, he needed armaments.
I think it is good that you members , libs and ...[text shortened]... ed itself.
Will he dare mention the economy and inflation and crime? We shall see.
#AverageJoe
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Don't you ever read books?.
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@no1marauder saidBiden did NOT broker the deal. Trump did. Trump got the ball rolling.
I don't care about your "whataboutism" BS. I already said three Presidents kicked the can down the road because of political cowardice; maybe you should actually read my posts.
From p. 2 of this thread:
"Biden also deserves enormous credit for having the courage to end the US fiasco in Afghanistan even though it cost him politically (something three prior Presidents had decided to kick the can down the road rather than face)."
Biden deserves no credit for that. He had 8 years in the Obama administration to talk Obama into it and they had political cowardice. If Trump had gotten a second term we would be talking about how Trump was courageous.
@no1marauder saidTrump and Biden both work for the same elites. They are both black hats that secretly like each other and work together for the same goals.
"U.S. officials made clear at the time that the agreement was conditions-based and the failure of intra-Afghan peace talks to reach a negotiated settlement would have nullified the requirement to withdraw.
One day before the Doha deal, a top aide to chief U.S. negotiator Zalmay Khalilzad said the agreement was not irreversible, and “there is no obligation for the Unite ...[text shortened]... ational as Trump would have done in the future but we know he did not end the occupation. Biden did.