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@liljo said
Yeah, like yahoo...

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Any argument based on something which appeared at Breitbart.

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@mott-the-hoople said
are you just stupid or what?
best argument ever. Just say that and your opponent in Debate will fold and agree to anything you said...

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@ponderable said
best argument ever. Just say that and your opponent in Debate will fold and agree to anything you said...
It’s the cold hard irony that gets me.

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@shavixmir said
This is actually a logical fallacy.
The argument being that women are unfunny. And your reply is to come with a list of exceptions. It doesn’t actually address the argument.
Arguments do have to be met by counter-arguments. Counter-examples can also refute bad arguments.

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@moonbus said
Arguments do have to be met by counter-arguments. Counter-examples can also refute bad arguments.
No sir.
Examples can be used to highlight an argument, but they cannot be the argument themselves.

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Take the top 100 funniest people in the world, all time, and a woman wouldn't make that list.

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@book-and-bored said
Take the top 100 funniest people in the world, all time, and a woman wouldn't make that list.
Utter hogwash.

Joan Rivers.
Jennifer Saunders
Diane Morgan

To name just a few.

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@shavixmir said
Utter hogwash.

Joan Rivers.
Jennifer Saunders
Diane Morgan

To name just a few.
See, counter-examples refute bad arguments

Q.E.D.

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Another bad argument: giving credit or blame to an elected official about something they have no control over. Like pointing out 9/11 happened under Bush's watch.

Blaming or crediting a mayor, governor, Prime Minister, etc., for a rise or decrease in crime, a rise or decrease in unemployment, etc., are bad arguments unless you can point to a specific policy, action or deliberate inaction that caused said rise or decrease in whatever good or bad thing that happened during their term.

Merely pointing out something good or bad happened during a presidency and giving blame or credit is a flawed argument.

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@moonbus said
See, counter-examples refute bad arguments

Q.E.D.
No. The examples are there to booster the counter-argument (i.e. that his statement is hogwash).

And that, obviously, in itself is a pretty poor argument.

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there are too many to list. I used to see American politics as a hobby, a fun little diversion when McCain and Romney were representing the "bad side". Now it's just depressing.


Here: i will add one too. Homophobic turds behind "don't say gay" bills say they are doing it to protect kids (a hateful lie of an argument in itself) all the while the same party will force a 12 year old to give birth to another child. Child marriage is legal in many states and Tennessee's latest homophobic piece of excrement introduces vague language that can be interpreted as eliminating age requirements for marriage altogether.

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@vivify said
Another bad argument: giving credit or blame to an elected official about something they have no control over. Like pointing out 9/11 happened under Bush's watch.

Blaming or crediting a mayor, governor, Prime Minister, etc., for a rise or decrease in crime, a rise or decrease in unemployment, etc., are bad arguments unless you can point to a specific policy, action or deli ...[text shortened]... something good or bad happened during a presidency and giving blame or credit is a flawed argument.
Bush received numerous reports saying an attack by a large terrorist group is imminent and did close to nothing
That can be placed at his feet

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@moonbus
do NOT have to be met by counter-arguments.

Typo error.

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@shavixmir said
No. The examples are there to booster the counter-argument (i.e. that his statement is hogwash).

And that, obviously, in itself is a pretty poor argument.
Hogwash. Hogwash is a perfectly valid response ... to hogwash. And you can quote none less than Bertand Russell on that.

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@vivify offers up:


- On whether women are funny:
Wanda Sykes is a freekin' panic. Very humorous woman. But, yes, as usual, there are a lot more men in the field.

- On abortion:
We have the rights of two humans at stake and it is impossible to save both. 6 months.


- On men vs. women drivers:
forget it. women suck as drivers. Wealthy race car drivers all over the world are men. end of story.
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Here's one people rarely talk about - racehorse jockeys
here's an occupation that is highly paid, and where it is an advantage to weigh less, which women do.
And yet women are still absent from the field. Think they'll figure it out? not a chance.

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