@metal-brain saidIf you disagree with Bolton's opinion you shouldn't use it as support for your argument.
@AThousandYoung
I never said there was no UN, that is what Bolton said.
His point was the USA leads the UN and not the other way around. The USA didn't care about the Rwanda genocide so the UN had a very limited role. The USA gets UN resolutions with coercion and extortion. GW Bush came very close to getting a UN resolution to invade Iraq. Surprisingly, he was unable t ...[text shortened]... SA gets the UN to do things. It is a disgrace.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0303/S00069.htm
@athousandyoung saidStop taking his statement too literally. You know what he meant.
If you disagree with Bolton's opinion you shouldn't use it as support for your argument.
@metal-brain saidYou're just upset I proved Bolton wrong with your own posts and you lost the thread.
Stop taking his statement too literally. You know what he meant.
01 Dec 22
@athousandyoung saidLOL! I think Bolton is human scum, but if you want to fool yourself into thinking proving him wrong proves me wrong you are welcome to deceive yourself. Not that anyone who isn't deluding themselves would take his statement literally.
You're just upset I proved Bolton wrong with your own posts and you lost the thread.
The USA rigs UN votes with bribery and threats. The threat of sanctions alone is a common method of extortion. The UN is completely corrupted by the USA.
@metal-brain saidJohn Bolton was famously anti UN for the reason that makes your assertion about the UN and the US one and the same thing a blatant lie. He didn’t like the UN because the US could not control or even steer UN policy.
@kevcvs57
“There is no such thing as the United Nations. There is an international community that occasionally can be led by the only real power left in the world and that is the United States when it suits our interest and we can get others to go along.''
John Bolton, 1994, Global Structures Convocation, New York, NY.
https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/19374/
Only a complete moron would quote Bolton as evidence that the UN is the US in sheep’s clothing.
@kevcvs57 saidI already proved you wrong.
John Bolton was famously anti UN for the reason that makes your assertion about the UN and the US one and the same thing a blatant lie. He didn’t like the UN because the US could not control or even steer UN policy.
Only a complete moron would quote Bolton as evidence that the UN is the US in sheep’s clothing.
GW Bush wanted to invade Iraq because of WMDs that Iraq did not have and he almost got UN approval based on a pack of lies. He used bribery and threats to accomplish that. That is how the USA gets the UN to do things. It is a disgrace, but fortunately France stopped that one.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0303/S00069.htm
@sonhouse saidSo only left wingers tell the truth?
@Metal-Brain
Sure, we believe John Bolton, a card carrying right winger.....
LOL!
"Biden as recently as Thursday dismissed the notion that his relief plan fueled increases in prices. In fact, economists concede that the $1.9 trillion bill did contribute to inflation"
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/3528230-how-much-does-bidens-1-9t-bill-have-to-do-with-inflation/
@metal-brain saidHahaha
I already proved you wrong.
GW Bush wanted to invade Iraq because of WMDs that Iraq did not have and he almost got UN approval based on a pack of lies. He used bribery and threats to accomplish that. That is how the USA gets the UN to do things. It is a disgrace, but fortunately France stopped that one.
https://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0303/S00069.htm
Even with bribery threats and a pack of lies he could only ALMOST get UN approval. Are you cutting out the middle man and arguing with yourself in a desperate bid to win one.