17 Jan 23
@mott-the-hoople saidCould you please cite to the specific provisions of the US Code that you claim Biden violated?
biden, a private citizen had SCI classified documents in his possession and you dont know if he broke any laws 😂😂😂
Thanks in advance.
Let me know if it is some violation of the Espionage Act and if it is, you should review a transcript of Comey's statement declining to prosecute Hillary for the email molehill. It's called the Espionage Act, not the Careless Handling of Government Documents Act, for a reason.
@kevcvs57 saidBut the facts are clear that he did. Or, someone got hold of them and put them in his garage without his knowledge. That would be the only other explanation . Is that what Marauder says happened? I wish he would tell us take on it.
Hahaha
I think I’ll go with marauder on this one and I’m sure he’s saying we do not know if he’s broken the law yet, just like with Trump the appointed experts will make their recommendations to DOJ once they’ve completed their investigations
Note that 'someone else' did not do it without his knowledge, because he is all about saying 'they are all safe in my corvette garage", defending their presence.
I wish they would check the boxes for Hunters fingerprints!
17 Jan 23
@no1marauder saidBut I have to go play golf, and anyway it is not necessary when the law is clear that the law of government, lets say, is that if they are taken anywhere other than the archives, the taker is breaking the law.
Could you please cite to the specific provisions of the US Code that you claim Biden violated?
Thanks in advance.
Let me know if it is some violation of the Espionage Act and if it is, you should review a transcript of Comey's statement declining to prosecute Hillary for the email molehill. It's called the Espionage Act, not the Careless Handling of Government Documents Act, for a reason.
Interesting how you libs are lock-step defending the indefensible. On every Forum issue.
17 Jan 23
@averagejoe1 saidWhat "law" is "clear"?
But I have to go play golf, and anyway it is not necessary when the law is clear that the law of government, lets say, is that if they are taken anywhere other than the archives, the taker is breaking the law.
Interesting how you libs are lock-step defending the indefensible. On every Forum issue.
17 Jan 23
@averagejoe1 said“Interesting how you libs are lock-step defending the indefensible.”
But I have to go play golf, and anyway it is not necessary when the law is clear that the law of government, lets say, is that if they are taken anywhere other than the archives, the taker is breaking the law.
Interesting how you libs are lock-step defending the indefensible. On every Forum issue.
how would you like to have one of them as a neighbor? 😂
have to keep everything locked up tight, and several no trespass signs.
18 Jan 23
@no1marauder saidSee recent post, the law which arose from Watergate. I know, that’s BS!
What "law" is "clear"?
18 Jan 23
@averagejoe1 saidWell, here's the Presidential Records Act: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title44/chapter22&edition=prelim
See recent post, the law which arose from Watergate. I know, that’s BS!
Guess what? It has no provisions for punishments upon violating it even assuming, for the sake of argument, Biden violated it.
I did find this penal statute which might be relevant: 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
It reads, in full:
"(a)Whoever willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, or destroys, or attempts to do so, or, with intent to do so takes and carries away any record, proceeding, map, book, paper, document, or other thing, filed or deposited with any clerk or officer of any court of the United States, or in any public office, or with any judicial or public officer of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(b)Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the office held by any person as a retired officer of the Armed Forces of the United States."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2071
Now I asked before, so maybe you could answer me now:
What evidence is there that Joe Biden "willfully" and "unlawfully" concealed, removed, mutilated, etc. etc. etc. any public record?
And don't tell me "cuz Brit Hume said so".
18 Jan 23
@no1marauder saidJesus. I showed you the law, you did not give me a kudo. Are you a robot, truly? Creepy.
Well, here's the Presidential Records Act: https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title44/chapter22&edition=prelim
Guess what? It has no provisions for punishments upon violating it even assuming, for the sake of argument, Biden violated it.
I did find this penal statute which might be relevant: 18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation gen ...[text shortened]... removed, mutilated, etc. etc. etc. any public record?
And don't tell me "cuz Brit Hume said so".
Then you write this, that you asked me for evidence that he …removed…any public record, I know nothing about mutilations, etc. I say he did remove for one reason…..he said the files were safe in his garage. That is, he acknowledged it like it was cool, and he CERTAINLY did not deny that he put them there. That is my ‘evidence’. Who is writing about punishments?Only you I guess.
@averagejoe1 saidThis is ridiculous: you can't even remember what you wrote in the other thread when you asked if Biden would "pay a fine or do time".
Jesus. I showed you the law, you did not give me a kudo. Are you a robot, truly? Creepy.
Then you write this, that you asked me for evidence that he …removed…any public record, I know nothing about mutilations, etc. I say he did remove for one reason…..he said the files were safe in his garage. That is, he acknowledged it like it was cool, and he CERTAINLY did not deny that he put them there. That is my ‘evidence’. Who is writing about punishments?Only you I guess.
Biden said where they were discovered was "secure"; he did not say he personally put them there.
Which thread do you want to discuss this in? I'm not going to keep posting the same comments in two different threads.
EDIT: Actually, you have at least three threads going covering the same damn thing.
@no1marauder saidBecause, I making it clear to the Forum that you fellers are quite disingenuous, even with 3 threads. You asked for th 'law' , implying that there is not one. I found it for you. You reward me writing this tripe, and worse, defending the lawbreaker Biden right go my face.
This is ridiculous: you can't even remember what you wrote in the other thread when you asked if Biden would "pay a fine or do time".
Biden said where they were discovered was "secure"; he did not say he personally put them there.
Which thread do you want to discuss this in? I'm not going to keep posting the same comments in two different threads.
EDIT: Actually, you have at least three threads going covering the same damn thing.
How much you want go beat this horse? Will I be forced to open a 4th thread on this case of Biden illegality? Can you not admit to ANYTHING?
Are you segueing, to say that I can't remember something? So what if I can't. You sound like a liberal. Man up.
Yes, pay a fine or do time refers to an answer one might make if a person is convicted of a crime. Why in the World would you make an issue of that?
Biden did not say that he did not put them there, which in the real world is to admit that he did. Lawyers would love to take this case on ,, including me, but McHill says I am not a lawyer.
PS, Biden said they were secure. This will put you on the spot, you Biden-lover you. Do you think tha they were secure, given the nature, the source, of the files? Would Biden say his wife's $500K worth of jewels would be secure in that same location.
Everyone get over here to watch Biden not answer this question