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@cliff-mashburn said
Europe America Scandinavia Australia all Western Christian countries are being overrun and it's OK because all the other races and religions are better?
"Overrun"?

You oppose immigration because you think the race and/or religion you belong to is "better"?

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@wildgrass said
This is the only way to defend trump. Straight lie.

Remain in Mexico was not working. That's obvious from border patrol stats much of the huge increase in crossings were repeat offenders and they were using up huge resources to catch them over and over again.
Hitory lessoon from WGrass. Give us all an A, class dismissed.
Now can hou answer the question of Why Biden will not close the border? Whew.

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@no1marauder said
Be serious:

""Remain in Mexico" was first developed and implemented by the Trump administration in 2019 and has been billed has a deterrent to preempt invalid asylum claims. The protocols have been applied only to a small fraction of overall border crossers, undermining claims of MPP's effectiveness."

"Mexico's foreign ministry says around 74,000 migrants wer ...[text shortened]... res Mexico's cooperation and as the article cited shows they have made it clear they will not do so.
And you, like all the other seemingly-she posters will not answer my question. Trump notwithstanding, why won't Biden sign the order and stop the hell, the rape, the death, the cost?

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@no1marauder said
Yes, the whole world is afraid of Trump in your MAGA delusions. I guess that's why Mexico paid for the wall, too.

The point is Remain in Mexico was a minor program that certainly did not "close the border" as you claim. And it doesn't matter anymore anyway; the Mexican government has made it clear it won't cooperate with such a program now or in the future and there is ...[text shortened]... cated that it opposes any attempt by the United States to restart a similar program in the future. "
YOu can forget all this history if you will have Biden sign the order so we will have new facts and discussions to deal with.

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@AverageJoe1
Why won't Biden, who is president, sign an order to close the Border? All it needs, to be closed, is his scrawny signature.

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@averagejoe1 said
Hitory lessoon from WGrass. Give us all an A, class dismissed.
Now can hou answer the question of Why Biden will not close the border? Whew.
This questions been answered 6 times. He cannot. Asked Congress for more money to hire more border patrol agents and Republicans said no.

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So you read the border bill and know exactly HOW it is so bad Trump killed it. Funny, the representatives didn't even get a chance to read it so how come you know so much about it to say it was a terrible bill, well there is the part where your god king said Biden should not get credit for helping the border situation, like the 20 billion going to hire more border patrol, judges to handle cases and the like, I guess we can't have that kind of thing in a border bill, right?

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@wildgrass
It wasn't congressMEN who killed the bill it was a single congressMAN, Mikey, Trump's pet squeaker of the house upon Trump's command.

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@cliff-mashburn said
Europe America Scandinavia Australia all Western Christian countries are being overrun and it's OK because all the other races and religions are better?
Latin American countries are Western and Christian.

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@wildgrass said
This questions been answered 6 times. He cannot. Asked Congress for more money to hire more border patrol agents and Republicans said no.
He also asked them to do other stuff, they said no. What the hell has that got to do with this issue.
Try again. Trump did exec orders, so did Biden (about the border opening), without congress approval. Your light-loafered Obama himself said "all I need is a pen and a phone".
So, that means the president can turn the order over and write on the back of it to change it back to where it was so that our country might be saved.

So simple. Exec Orders do not need congress approval, they did not before. He signed them 1 hour after he was sworn in. No congress approval.
What is wrong with you libs. Hey, do you not want it closed? Join with Av Joe and lets Close That Border!! Now, that's the American Spirit!!! Good boys.

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@sonhouse said
@Mott-The-Hoople
So you read the border bill and know exactly HOW it is so bad Trump killed it. Funny, the representatives didn't even get a chance to read it so how come you know so much about it to say it was a terrible bill, well there is the part where your god king said Biden should not get credit for helping the border situation, like the 20 billion going to hire more ...[text shortened]... dges to handle cases and the like, I guess we can't have that kind of thing in a border bill, right?
Check out the vapor-head Sonhouse, says the solution (not to cement the border) is to hire thousands of soldiers or somebody to WATCH the border crossings. Tose are his words exactly, acccording to my grandmother. She considers him a true idikot. But I don't, I like Sonhouse. The boy picks mando, what's not to llke.

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@wildgrass said
This questions been answered 6 times. He cannot. Asked Congress for more money to hire more border patrol agents and Republicans said no.
Yes, he did it before, under exec order law, so of course, he can do it again. Why won't he. Or why won't he try? He tired real hard to pay off tuitions while thumbing his nose at SCOTUS, so why won't he 'try real hard' to close the border off, to stop killings, trafficking, starving, drugs, rapes, all that stuff.
Why won't he try real hard to close the border? Why wont he try real hard to close the border? Why won't he try real hard to close the border. Why won't he try real hard to close the border?

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@averagejoe1 said
Yes, he did it before, under exec order law, so of course, he can do it again. Why won't he. Or why won't he try? He tired real hard to pay off tuitions while thumbing his nose at SCOTUS, so why won't he 'try real hard' to close the border off, to stop killings, trafficking, starving, drugs, rapes, all that stuff.
Why won't he try real hard to close the border? ...[text shortened]... der? Why won't he try real hard to close the border. Why won't he try real hard to close the border?
Someone else posted the stats dude. 2,000 crossers per day for 4 years while trump was president.

Does that seem closed to you?

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@averagejoe1 said
There has been a lot of misconception about whether Biden has the right to end the misery at the border with a stroke of a pen. marauder says it has to go through Congress. That is not correct. But anyway, when Donald takes over on January 20, he will sign such an order. Since he can sign an order, why cannot Joe sign an order now? Any answers will be appreciated to resolve this matter.
There's a lot of hysterical stupidity in your posts here.

First, the President has no authority to "close the border" except perhaps in an emergency. Congress has extensively regulated immigration by statute; they have not agreed to any provision that makes the President a dictator over this area (and they couldn't if they wanted to). So all your screeching is nonsensical.

Second, "closing the border" is an idiotic idea. You've been shown the many benefits of immigration both economically and otherwise; it would be foolish to deprive the country of these benefits for no other reason than your white nationalist concerns over other "cultures".

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@averagejoe1 said
There has been a lot of misconception about whether Biden has the right to end the misery at the border with a stroke of a pen. marauder says it has to go through Congress. That is not correct. But anyway, when Donald takes over on January 20, he will sign such an order. Since he can sign an order, why cannot Joe sign an order now? Any answers will be appreciated to resolve this matter.
Here's some homework for you: https://www.khou.com/article/news/verify/immigration/can-biden-close-border-via-executive-order-fact-check/536-9309515a-fb57-458c-9fdf-fbc047502c5d

The short version: "No, a president cannot completely shut down the border with an executive order. A full border closure would violate federal laws granting people the right to seek asylum. "

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