03 Nov 23
@suzianne saidNo, it is not just I that called you an idealist. If you will google, “ conservatives realist, liberals, idealist, “ you will see that it is a given across the world that you are the idealist. So all of your posts in that regard are lsunk.
And you call us 'idealists'.
Except your fever dream is far from ideal.
@suzianne saidSo you 'pick', of yesterday's decisions and that of today's court, the one that you like the most. This does not bode well for your reasoning, as the SCOTUS, with more adept minds than those of 50 years ago, labored for many many hours to come to the proper interpretation that they did.
What pure, unmitigated bullstuff.
50 years of Supreme Courts, mostly conservative, thought it was perfectly constitutional. Dream up another argument. Did you know Johnson has been trying to make birth control illegal?
Are you basing your decision on experience, or emotion, or too many babies,,. how do you arrive at your conclusion, when SCOTUS has studied it much more than you have?
03 Nov 23
@suzianne said?? An iudealist is you, just willy nilly say Roe should not be overturned, but you give no reason for your studied decision.
And you call us 'idealists'.
Except your fever dream is far from ideal.
A Realist, is me, who gives the basis for why I think it should have been overturned.......the basis being supreme court justices behind closed doors.
Try again, like you and I are chatting at Starbucks and I look quizzically at you while you state your opinions.
03 Nov 23
@AverageJoe1
You are living in a seriously deluded fantasy world. It WAS an insurrection and everyone but you maybe knows that. People DIED that day, and if they had found Pence they WOULD have hung him.
If that is not an insurrection I don't know the meaning of the word.
@sonhouse saidSeriously, please then tell us why Trump has not been charged with insurrection .let’s say we both think he is guilty of insurrection .
@AverageJoe1
You are living in a seriously deluded fantasy world. It WAS an insurrection and everyone but you maybe knows that. People DIED that day, and if they had found Pence they WOULD have hung him.
If that is not an insurrection I don't know the meaning of the word.
Why no charge?
03 Nov 23
@averagejoe1 saidWhy does Suzianne not respond to my post, this post. I always respond to hers.
?? An iudealist is you, just willy nilly say Roe should not be overturned, but you give no reason for your studied decision.
A Realist, is me, who gives the basis for why I think it should have been overturned.......the basis being supreme court justices behind closed doors.
Try again, like you and I are chatting at Starbucks and I look quizzically at you while you state your opinions.
04 Nov 23
@averagejoe1 saidAs I SAID, 50 years of SCs, mostly Republicans, thought R v W was perfectly constitutional. It's today's court, responding to Trump's idiotic, obsessive base, who thinks the majority wanted it overturned, who is flat-out wrong about it.
Why does Suzianne not respond to my post, this post. I always respond to hers.
04 Nov 23
@suzianne saidThe SCOTUS, which knows more about law and the Constitution than we know, studied and labored over its meaning, and decided that Roe vs Wade should be overturned. Theoretically, you actually think that you could have sat in on their deliberations and lent deeper thought to the conversations, and changed their minds as regards the Constitution. Your basis would be 'what most people think'.
As I SAID, 50 years of SCs, mostly Republicans, thought R v W was perfectly constitutional. It's today's court, responding to Trump's idiotic, obsessive base, who thinks the majority wanted it overturned, who is flat-out wrong about it.
Could you give us the legal reasoning that you would present, ....not what most people think? Could be a nice specific issue, and one that 'the majority* of the Forum' would like.
*Please avoid use of the word majority, it smacks of mobs. Creeeeepy.