14 Nov 05
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Originally posted by RagnorakI have seen that clip before and it illustrates perfectly that these idiotic talking heads on cable news do not even attempt to have actual informed discussions because they are not capable of it. They have no more understanding of this Nations foreign policy than my cat. They exist to get ratings and that is what they do because far too many of my fellow Americans have an even worse understanding of both national and international politics than the jokers on television do.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Glick_56.wmv
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Jefferson must be spinning in his grave.
TheSkipper
14 Nov 05
Originally posted by chancremechanicWhy are you convinced that you have to join the military to be patriotic. That is just stupid.
Bill only has the most popular cable news program 10 years running. CNN and MSNBC can't compete. People can't stand to hear the truth. I am a very objective person, and Bill slams lefwingers as well as rightwingers as I see it, because I am just right of center. Why won't a lot of the big mouths in the leftwing camp go on his program and face ...[text shortened]... of $ it takes one just to live within the city limits......unbelievable....F&*k San Francisco!!
I hate to agree, but prohibiting military recruiting from anywhere is just stupid. Why shouldn't they have free speach just like any other organization.
14 Nov 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowWhen it comes to public schools, I don't think just any organization has a right under our laws to solicit kids. I'm pretty sure that if I walked into a local high school and started handing kids help wanted adds for a new restaurant, I'd be asked in no uncertain terms to get my butt off campus.
Why are you convinced that you have to join the military to be patriotic. That is just stupid.
I hate to agree, but prohibiting military recruiting from anywhere is just stupid. Why shouldn't they have free speach just like any other organization.
15 Nov 05
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowTelerion is right. We shouldn't forget that the main reason for having our public school system is to give kids an education.
Why are you convinced that you have to join the military to be patriotic. That is just stupid.
I hate to agree, but prohibiting military recruiting from anywhere is just stupid. Why shouldn't they have free speach just like any other organization.
15 Nov 05
Originally posted by telerionnot if you did it at a recruitment fair.
When it comes to public schools, I don't think just any organization has a right under our laws to solicit kids. I'm pretty sure that if I walked into a local high school and started handing kids help wanted adds for a new restaurant, I'd be asked in no uncertain terms to get my butt off campus.
17 Nov 05
Originally posted by telerionHe isn't welcoming a terrorist attack on San Francisco. He is making a point on the anti-military bias of that city. Whats wrong with recruiters going to schools and talking to students about a possible career in the military? Schools receive billions of tax dollars from said government but they don't want the military to come to the schools. Kind of hypocritic don't you think? I wouldn't want a terrorist atttack to ever happen again in this country. Now an earthquake on the richter scale of 8.5 should happen to come along and drop it in the Pacific. Well now thats something to ponder about.
Do you agree with Bill then and welcome a terrorist attack in San Francisco?
17 Nov 05
Originally posted by RagnorakThey take the governments money for the schools but, they don't want certain representatives of the same government to come to the schools. If they take that approach then maybe health workers, recruiters from universities ect. shouldn't be allowed to enter the schools either. Whether you like the military or not they are still entitled and have the same rights as other government officials. What about schools that offer ROTC in the bay area? What about those kids rights who might want to talk to a military recruiter?
How so?
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17 Nov 05
Originally posted by sasquatch672. . . but only on high school and some college campuses.
Ultimately, the military has the same right to recruit that colleges do. You can talk to your kid, you can try and influence their views, but what this measure does is restrict the free speech and right to peaceful assembly of military recruiters.
I'm not a 1st amendment lawyer, but I don't think soliciting for a government organization or a private business is considered free speech, especially in a high school campus.
The recruiters still have plenty of stations in San Francisco. In my opinion, if a kid wants to enlist, they can go there. While they are in school during school hours, they should make use of the time and resources and try to learn something.