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@shavixmir saidhow they got their money is irrelevant.
Soros is forced on you?
Bill Gates is forced on you?
It’s capitalism baby!
Dems allowing them to participate in making govt policy is the problem.
but you know that, just had the urge to say something stupid
@mott-the-hoople saidAll capitalism works that way.
how they got their money is irrelevant.
Dems allowing them to participate in making govt policy is the problem.
but you know that, just had the urge to say something stupid
@mott-the-hoople saidThe corruption factor, yes.
how they got their money is irrelevant.
Dems allowing them to participate in making govt policy is the problem.
but you know that, just had the urge to say something stupid
This is why, IMO, capitalism sucks.
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@earl-of-trumps saidare you suggesting this doesnt happen with communism/socialism ?
The corruption factor, yes.
This is why, IMO, capitalism sucks.
17 Sep 23
@earl-of-trumps saidCorruption sucks, not capitalism.
The corruption factor, yes.
This is why, IMO, capitalism sucks.
'Capitalism - The Unknown Ideal' Ayn Rand
17 Sep 23
@mott-the-hoople saidIt happens in China, more than in America, that's for damn sure.
are you suggesting this doesnt happen with communism/socialism ?
I'm a free marketeer, and it is like capitalism - less the government "investing" in businesses.
Capitalism could be Ok, if the politicians weren't such greedy thieves.
17 Sep 23
@earl-of-trumps saidWall St already operates under at least half a dozen different goobermint buratcracies.
What watchdog mechanism could we have had that would have prevented the bailout of the Wall Street banks under Obama?
Besides, I am a Libertarian and we don't believe in forced taxes to begin with.
Bailouts inevitably incentivize bad behavior.
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@earl-of-trumps saidnothing to do with capitalism then, corruption is the issue
It happens in China, more than in America, that's for damn sure.
I'm a free marketeer, and it is like capitalism - less the government "investing" in businesses.
Capitalism could be Ok, if the politicians weren't such greedy thieves.
17 Sep 23
@Wajoma - Bailouts inevitably incentivize bad behavior.
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yup, behavior that is akin to fake insurance claims of all kinds.
18 Sep 23
@mott-the-hoople saidCapitalist monopolies on power just like centralised authoritarian power are natural mediums for corruption, the internal logic of both systems demand corruption.
nothing to do with capitalism then, corruption is the issue
People are naturally greedy and corrupt that’s why forms of government are required that can mitigate our natural state of corruption.
18 Sep 23
@kevcvs57 saidWhat is the def of greedy to you fellers? If libs lust after getting money from people who have money, in any way they can, is that a form of greed rather than labeling it as stealing the money?
Capitalist monopolies on power just like centralised authoritarian power are natural mediums for corruption, the internal logic of both systems demand corruption.
People are naturally greedy and corrupt that’s why forms of government are required that can mitigate our natural state of corruption.
Would the taker of the money rather be regarded as greedy than be regarded as a thief?
18 Sep 23
@mott-the-hoople saidnever knew we have a common ground.
how they got their money is irrelevant.
Dems allowing them to participate in making govt policy is the problem.
but you know that, just had the urge to say something stupid
then you agree with us that billionaires have too much power and they shouldn't be allowed to pump money into politics? and you will tell your republican elected officials, none of whom oppose citizens united, that they must work towards banning pacs and super pacs and any campaign contribution above a certain sum?
or are you a hypocrite and it's just soros you don't like but perfectly fine with other billionaires supporting your guys?
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@zahlanzi saidfirst I need you to show where billionaires regularly visit the whitehouse to meet with gop like soros and gates does to meet dems
never knew we have a common ground.
then you agree with us that billionaires have too much power and they shouldn't be allowed to pump money into politics? and you will tell your republican elected officials, none of whom oppose citizens united, that they must work towards banning pacs and super pacs and any campaign contribution above a certain sum?
or are you a hyp ...[text shortened]... and it's just soros you don't like but perfectly fine with other billionaires supporting your guys?