23 Mar 05
Originally posted by AThousandYoungTo answer your question as to whether I would experience pain, yes, I would as would any person with a well-developed central nervous system. The adrenal fight-or-flight mechanism is stimulated in that moment before I recognize that there is no real threat to myself. I feel that I may be in danger. If I didn't feel that way, the adrenals wouldn't be pumping me full of neuro-transmitters.
Have you ever been to one of those websites where they tell you it's a puzzle and you have to look really close at the picture, and then like two minutes after a huge freak face appears suddenly with a loud scream, making you jump back and your heart skip a beat? There's no pain involved there, right?
23 Mar 05
Originally posted by Pavlo87I have been in the seafood business for almost 20 years now. Lobsters are one step above cockroaches on the evolutionary scale. "Cutting their heads off", if that were indeed possible, would not be the more humane method of killing them. If the water is at a hard boil death will be very, very quick. As to a scream, I've cooked many lobsters this way and never heard a scream.
boiling is quicker in killing lobsters than just chopping off their heads with one hard whack? Thanks for your input. But i disagree with that "expert".
Sincerely, Pavlo.
p.s. i've been wrong before. it's just my opinion though. 🙂
Thanks for listening. 🙂
Surely there are other more important things going on in this world that you could worry about?😉
24 Mar 05
Originally posted by chaswrayIm with you on this one.
I have been in the seafood business for almost 20 years now. Lobsters are one step above cockroaches on the evolutionary scale. "Cutting their heads off", if that were indeed possible, would not be the more humane method of killing them. If the water is at a hard boil death will be very, very quick. As to a scream, I've cooked many lobsters this way a ...[text shortened]... urely there are other more important things going on in this world that you could worry about?😉
24 Mar 05
Originally posted by Pavlo87So it is better to be pulled apart by a fifty pound grooper than to be shocked to death in seconds? One part at a time for five minutes with every nerve sending messages all that time?
I've heard of this happening quite a bit. This gets on my nerves. Some i think have said that the lobster doesn't feel any pain? I don't see how it couldn't. I am against it; i don't feel anything, person or animal should die/suffer that way.
Sincerely, Pavlo.
p.s. i've heard that when the lobster is being boiled alive there is this sound that re ...[text shortened]... r something like that. I think it is hurting and i am upset with the continual practice of this.
I giggle a bit here because even though the nerves do send messages, they are discarded. There is no area to process the "pain".
That is a higher evolutionary "brain" than a lobster has obtained.
Now the mullusks and their advanced cousins -- Octopus, squid and coddle fish -- do process pain. So don't boil them alive.
Did you know that the brain of an octopus is larger than a humans, when compared to a function of body weight?
It is. Unfortunately, it is all tied up in turning on and off the 385,000 independent cells that comprise the "color change" protection scheme that they have adopted. There is a little left for thought, but not above the level of a rabbit. The octopus can change all 385,000 cells off and on faster than the best graphics card in any computer. But it can't recognize it's "children".
Science. Damnedest thing you ever did learn!
24 Mar 05
Originally posted by Pavlo87In the end, if a lobsters is in the wild it is likely to get mauled to death by sharks, or crushed to death by octopus, maybe pecked to death by sea birds or even torn to pieces by a boat propeler, and to me that dont sound like to idealic a way to die either. So that in respect makes this debate almost pointless. Nature is cruel so why complain about whether we should or shouldnt boil a lobster.
boiling is quicker in killing lobsters than just chopping off their heads with one hard whack? Thanks for your input. But i disagree with that "expert".
Sincerely, Pavlo.
p.s. i've been wrong before. it's just my opinion though. 🙂
Thanks for listening. 🙂
Ps they might also be boiled to death by an underwater volcano so who cares.
24 Mar 05
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Originally posted by trawets113a world where no one cares for each other would be a terrible place to live.
who cares.
A world where people also look out for the interests of others is the kind of world that i would like to live.
([FOR EXAMPLE] will try to protect you from danger if they are able, spend time with you when you are lonely, feed you when you are starving(i.e. the poor/homeless), rejoice and laugh with you when you are happy, teach you when you are uninformed and eager too learn, give you medicine when you are sick, pray for you, return your belonging if they find (example: wallet, credit card), stick by you when others wrongfully regect/attack you, mourn with you when you grieve, and protect you when you are in danger)
Sincerely, Pavlo.
P.s. Their are some that are willing to do all or some of these things. Their are others would love too do the opposite.
24 Mar 05
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Originally posted by chaswrayI am just speaking for something that cannot speak for itself.
Surely there are other more important things going on in this world that you could worry about?😉
If we don't stand up for it's rights who will?
🙂 It surely won't talk it's way out of the boiling pot on its own for sure.
Thanks for listening and your comments by the way. 🙂
Sincerely, Pavlo.
p.s. i am concerned about other things chaswray.
Lives being lost in iraq, children losing fathers, wives losing husbands. Families being broken apart.
Diseases taking countless lives.
And i am also concerned for that one women that they have removed the feeding tube from recently.
Maybe i will post of these things in the future sometime.