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27 Jan 20
27 Jan 20
@no1marauder saidEveryone, this is a ‘book release’. That is all it is. Perfect timing, will sell like hotcakes. But that is as far as it will go. On another note, i still predict SCOTUS wont release tax returns.
It would be interesting to have Bolton and then the Donald testify under oath, wouldn't it?
Trump remains cooler than the center seed of a cucumber.
27 Jan 20
@no1marauder saidAs you are a lawyer, and Kazet toldme that im not,-can you tell me why no one ever mentions executive privilege on this forum.? Surely we all realize that Trump has every right regardless of his reasons to do what he is doing. And for that matter, we will never know his reason. The Constitution gives him this right.
It would be interesting to have Bolton and then the Donald testify under oath, wouldn't it?
27 Jan 20
@averagejoe1 saidNo it does not.
As you are a lawyer, and Kazet toldme that im not,-can you tell me why no one ever mentions executive privilege on this forum.? Surely we all realize that Trump has every right regardless of his reasons to do what he is doing. And for that matter, we will never know his reason. The Constitution gives him this right.
The constitution doesn’t give him the right to be a fukking retard.
And it sure as shyte doesn’t give him the right to withhold aid to get a foreign government to dig up dirt on a political opponent.
That is generally called treason.
27 Jan 20
@averagejoe1 saidWill you still love him when he's pickled?
Trump remains cooler than the center seed of a cucumber.
27 Jan 20
@AverageJoe1
He won't be so cool come November. Do you think people are so stupid they will ignore corruption when they see it in a sitting POTUS? They will notice the hypocrisy of the senate also, so come voting day, rePUTINicans will find themselves out on their collective ass and Dems will control house AND senate.
And have gotten rid of both a corrupt POTUS and a pray away the gay VPOTUS.
27 Jan 20
@no1marauder saidIt is possible that Trump is telling the truth there, that he did not tell this explicitly to Bolton. It is also possible that Bolton is telling the truth, A) that that was in fact Trump’s motive, and B) that Bolton knows this (without Trump’s having told him in exactly those words).
The Donald has specifically denied the Bolton revelation:
"I NEVER told John Bolton that the aid to Ukraine was tied to investigations into Democrats, including the Bidens."
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor
Let's get some people who attended those meetings under oath and see what they say under penalty of perjury.
27 Jan 20
@handyandy saidDidn’t you know? Trump is tea total. Really.
Will you still love him when he's pickled?
27 Jan 20
@Mott-The-Hoople
If you had any brains left after being captured by Putin, you might have figured out WHY some of the testimony was behind closed doors. I would explain it to you but you would just spout more of your handlers nonsense so climb back in the hole you came from.
@moonbus saidIt isn't possible that both Bolton and Trump are telling the truth if the article in the OP is accurate; it says Trump explicitly told Bolton that he wanted the military aid withheld until the Ukraine helped with the investigation into Biden. Trump has now expressly denied this.
It is possible that Trump is telling the truth there, that he did not tell this explicitly to Bolton. It is also possible that Bolton is telling the truth, A) that that was in fact Trump’s motive, and B) that Bolton knows this (without Trump’s having told him in exactly those words).
27 Jan 20
@mott-the-hoople saidYou mean closed depositions, all of whom have been completely made public?
like closed hearings?
@no1marauder saidTrump has a tenuous grip on facts, he routinely exaggerates even when he’s not outright lying, and his instinctive reaction to any accusation is flat denial regardless of facts. So it’s no surprise that he denies Bolton’s claim. I’m keen to read Bolton in print, or hear his testimony, not just a sound byte extract. I haven’t always agreed with his analysis of world events, but he’s no one’s fool, and no one can accuse Bolton of being a LibDem trying to undo the election.
It isn't possible that both Bolton and Trump are telling the truth if the article in the OP is accurate; it says Trump explicitly told Bolton that he wanted the military aid withheld until the Ukraine helped with the investigation into Biden. Trump has now expressly denied this.
EDIT: The NY Times is reporting several other bits of news from Bolton’s forthcoming book:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/26/us/politics/john-bolton-trump-book-takeaways.html
27 Jan 20
@no1marauder saidwhere is witness #18
You mean closed depositions, all of whom have been completely made public?
and we dont know that ALL has been made public. Have you seen the depositions? especially #18