Originally posted by xxxenophobeYou went there when you said "... i do think they due to our 'intervention' will be better off in the future ...".
not going there.. like i said.. not guna do it.. restraining self.. nope.. not goin there.... some body else can take this...😲
It's wrong that some Americans take that stance whilst making a fuss over 9/11.
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Originally posted by xxxenophobeHow is your obvious hatred of the French. and STANG's views of America any different in its basis?
sorry for editing that so much.. i just think your a gigantic wanker.. or french.. same hting...
I would consider who you are offending before you debase a nation. If you check the history books you may find that America has the French to thank for its independence, its system of government, and one of its greatest symbols in the statue of liberty.
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Originally posted by xxxenophobe"betterment of their society"
I dont think so... we went over there for a the betterment of their society.. but his lying @$$ should at least be kicked in the nutz for spooning out all the fals information to the public... so i think it is overall a good thing we did.. but he did it all wrong..
God if you think he went over there to better their society you are sadly mistaken. He might come and do my garden tomorrow, because it will look better when he has finished. Neither of these things enter the selfish presidents head.
Of course he should be tried, face a fair hearing. His dad went to protect Kuwait from an unwanted invasion. This was an ethical reason to wage war. It is not ethical or legal to invade a sovereign state, who shows no aggression towards America, without UN backing, whilst telling the world a pack of lies.
WMD or links to 9/11 were patent lies and Bush and Blair should face the music.
Originally posted by invigorate"His dad went to protect Kuwait from an unwanted invasion. This was an ethical reason to wage war."
"betterment of their society"
God if you think he went over there to better their society you are sadly mistaken. He might come and do my garden tomorrow, because it will look better when he has finished. Neither of these things enter the selfish presidents head.
Of course he should be tried, face a fair hearing. His dad went to protect Kuwait fr ...[text shortened]... of lies.
WMD or links to 9/11 were patent lies and Bush and Blair should face the music.
God, if you think the countries of the world cared about Kuwait you are sadly mistaken. If they had no oil they would be in the same shape as Darfur.
o.k…. now that I’ve had some time to.. gather myself… let me reiterate and clarify my position on the topic of 9/11, bush, and the removal of Sadam…
first… id like to apologize to any French I have offended… I was… emotional… seeing how I knew people that died in the attack and have many friends in various armed forces that have or are serving time in the middle east. I like a lot of stuff that without the French wouldn’t exist… great wine for one, absinthe, French fries and French toast.. lol…
second… I think bush is lord of the lying wankers… being I did not ether time nor would I ever vote for his lying a$$... Yes he went there for money and to “flex some muscle.” And he lied, in my guess, knowingly, about WMS. He’s a pecker… enough said.. nothing I can do… besides vote again next time for some one who I think and hope will do good for our country and for the world as a whole.
Third… I don’t understand how you compare 9/11 with what we are doing… We do NOT take civilian hostages by the hundreds and drive them in to some what non military targets… I can see why they hit the pentagon and yes there were “strategic” values to the twin towers… but I would have preferred they hit the F.B.I. headquarters or the White House, or a Military institution. And not with plains filled with noncombatants… where as we “Attempt” to keep noncombatant casualties to a minimum… I mean come on… would you like a plain full of civilians from your country driven in to a famous non military landmark?
Fourth… no matter what the reasoning behind what is going on over there… I do think a government change was long called for over there… no matter who did it. But how to invade another country is always going to be a “touchy” and difficult decision.
fifth... I'm sure the number of middle eastern people dead would slow down if they would stop blown there own people up...
So that’s my reasoning… and my feelings… in a less emotional close to curse word free post… ty
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So much immediate opinion, unmittigated by thought. The raw emotion, pride and hubris in this thread.
It's odd, such expressions themselves end up sympathizing with and/or justifying terrorism. For it seems to reflect the mindframe of the suicide pilots, their righteousness and anger annealed with such easy passion.
I think Iraq was the wrong target. I think The Bush administration knows Iraq is a big gas station. That being said may as well finish the job or get the hell out of Iraq. It is one thing to help liberate a people & help them but the war in Iraq seems stupid to me. I'm pro military that is the ironic thing about my feelings on this war. At first I supported the war but now I have my doubts. I guess I see through the veil of Bush. I think war for a just cause is one thing but there is always some hidden politics/agenda and it sucks to see people die. My dad was in the Korean war and he was telling looking back on that war it was pretty stupid. Anyway that is my 2cents Peace out Manny
I think Bush should not be charged with war crimes, but should be made to see what he put people through. Australian David Hicks was kept in Guantanamo Bay on the premise of a photo that could have been easily doctored by a sh!thead friend who just got Photoshop.
George Bush should be made to live in conditions as these for the same amount of time. I think. I don't like George Bush, and it's a personal opinion. I honestly don't see why every frigging conversation that has a mention of GWB has to turn into a "you don't like him, you don't like America, that's bad" bashing by Chancremechanic. This is the first one that I have not felt his presence.
Bet ya he shows up though.
Originally posted by D43M0NYeah, if you were a betting "boy", you'd win, 'cause here I am. Now, let me set you straight. I rarely come to the aid of GW 'cause I don't like him myself, but you're damn right I come to the defense of America when she is wrongly portrayed or accused. I have to defend her because most Americans here are too afraid, or too polite, to piss you Aussie/Euro-trash types off...but I don't lose one minute's sleep over what you or the "old world" thinks of me, 'cause I don't care....you don't like GW?...good, we have something in common. You don't like America?...that's your problem...cheers
I think Bush should not be charged with war crimes, but should be made to see what he put people through. Australian David Hicks was kept in Guantanamo Bay on the premise of a photo that could have been easily doctored by a sh!thead friend ...[text shortened]... e that I have not felt his presence.
Bet ya he shows up though.