01 Jun 22
https://www.axios.com/2022/05/31/supreme-court-texas-social-media-law
On a ruling regarding social media, Justice Alito wrote:
"It is not at all obvious how our existing precedents, which predate the age of the internet, should apply to large social media companies."
Could this opinion apply to other pre-internet precedents like gun ownership?
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01 Jun 22
@sonhouse saidSeriously, I think times have certainly changed. With the rise of social media and the pressures on today's kids to somehow "get famous" (whether for the good or the bad), I think thought must be devoted to that very question.
@Liljo
What do you think the age to legally buy guns should be?
I grew up in the country, and was exposed to guns at a very early age. I was using a .410 shotgun for hunting as early as 9. It was nothing to head to the woods with that little shotgun over one shoulder, and a fishing pole over the other. Hunt early mornings and kill a few squirrels, then fish mid-morning before returning to the house around noon. Then farm chores all afternoon long...Kids were different then, by and large. We were "farm employees."
I think, depending on the gun, training should be absolutely required. By experts. Part of their job should be analyzing the individual. I'm not against background checks. I personally have nothing whatsoever to hide. Assault rifles should have more stringent requirements than purchasing a single-shot 12-guage shotgun. Similar to the requirements for driving an 18-wheeler are more stringent than for driving a pickup truck.
I certainly don't know the answer, Son, but I don't believe in "blanket laws". I have a friend that hunts deer with me every other year. He lives in New Jersey and so he only comes down south once ever couple of years. He has so many permits and so much documentation, and is only allowed to use a shotgun where he lives to hunt deer. Not too many 200+ yard shots up in Jersey, I suppose. WAY to populated with people. But where I live, long shots that require a high powered rifle are extremely common. And the population is very low. The laws in Jersey would not work well here, nor the laws here in Jersey.
Blanket laws assume all 18-year olds, or aged 21, or whatever, are the same. Coast to coast. But they are not. Social media is checked by would-be employers before they hire people. Maybe they should be checked a little before selling an 18 year old multiple assault rifles and hundreds of rounds of ammo. I DEFINITELY think they should be well-vetted before being allowed to purchase the ability to cause so much harm so quickly.
02 Jun 22
@kevin-eleven saidCanada will take care of their house. You guys take care of yours.
A lot of good it will do us down here if Canada gets rid of their guns.
Our goal here is to keep ourselves from getting as far down the road as the US is.
Your problems are much greater.
Canada's legislative response to guns may not work with the US. But you guys have to start somewhere.
Losing your denialism on the issue would be a good first start.
Needless to say, the debate is still open to non-Americans, if only to alleviate the dropped jaws we get every time a shooting happens on US soil and the general response to those who live....... or die ...... by the 2nd amendment.
@suzianne saidTry this:
Thanks for that. I used to subscribe, but now I don't so somehow the Post knows me now and says, "F you! Don't read our news!"
Go to https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/30/canada-gun-control-handguns-assault-weapons/
When presented with the paywall thingy, click the go back arrow on your browser to return to a previous page.
Now click the go forward button and quickly click the X button (which is usually the Reload Page button) to stop the page loading before the script that brings up the paywall has a chance to complete.
Enjoy left wing propaganda for free.
You're welcome.
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02 Jun 22
@vivify saidGun Permits, Gun registration, what ever they're called,
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/30/canada-gun-control-handguns-assault-weapons/
Canada vows to ‘freeze’ handgun sales, buy back assault-style weapons
TORONTO — Canada on Monday introduced new gun-control legislation that, if passed, would implement a “national freeze” on buying, importing, transferring and selling handguns, effectively capping ...[text shortened]... . “We are, however, facing a level of gun violence in our communities that is unacceptable.”
it will become very expensive to own a
'legal' handgun weapon in CANADA.
@vivify saidRocks don't kill people on their own either; the point is that guns in the hands of
By your logic, no weapon, no matter how dangerous, should be illegal. Pipe bombs don't kill, people do, right?
responsible people are no threat to you. Rocks, pipe bombs, knives, clubs, fists,
and so on combined with evil intent by people who don't care about laws or life are
a danger no matter what law you pass to disarm the responsible people. Cars are
dangerous; airplanes are dangerous; what isn't if used by someone who wishes to
harm?
03 Jun 22
@kellyjay saidThat's why we can criminalize guns. Citizens can use rocks, fists, pipe bombs and cars to defend themselves.
Rocks don't kill people on their own either; the point is that guns in the hands of
responsible people are no threat to you. Rocks, pipe bombs, knives, clubs, fists,
and so on combined with evil intent by people who don't care about laws or life are
a danger no matter what law you pass to disarm the responsible people. Cars are
dangerous; airplanes are dangerous; what isn't if used by someone who wishes to
harm?
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03 Jun 22
@liljo saidWrong again.
Pipe bombs are not typically the weapon of choice when it comes to defending one's home from criminals. Criminals that usually should still be in prison. The likes of which hold a knife to the belly of a pregnant woman while their buddies rampage rob the house. Criminals like that later get eulogized as heroes by the left in this country.
1000 years ago, some lib probably wanted pitchforks outlawed! 😀
Why the anger? Who 'ya mad at?
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03 Jun 22
@kellyjay saidNo, the point is that "a good guy with a gun" is no threat to "law abiding citizens" in theory, but actual practice has proven to be very different.
Rocks don't kill people on their own either; the point is that guns in the hands of
responsible people are no threat to you.