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Err sorry got that wrong, no...actually China poses an “existential threat” to the international human rights system according to one source (HRW report published by Time Jan 14th 2020).

“Authorities dramatically stepped up repression and systematic abuses against the 13 million Turkic Muslims, including Uyghurs and ethnic Kazakhs, in China’s northwestern Xinjiang region. Authorities have carried out mass arbitrary detention, torture, and mistreatment of some of them in various detention facilities, and increasingly imposed pervasive controls on daily life.”

https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2019/country-chapters/china-and-tibet

The human rights situation continued to be marked by a systematic crackdown on dissent. The justice system remained plagued by unfair trials and torture and other ill-treatment in detention. China still classified information on its extensive use of the death penalty as a state secret.

“Repression conducted under the guise of “anti-separatism” or “counter-terrorism” remained particularly severe in the Xinjiang Uighur Autonomous Region (Xinjiang) and Tibetan-populated areas (Tibet). Authorities subjected Uighurs, Kazakhs and other predominantly Muslim ethnic groups in Xinjiang to intrusive surveillance, arbitrary detention and forced indoctrination.“

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/asia-and-the-pacific/china/report-china/

China poses an “existential threat” to the international human rights system, according to a new report released today by Human Rights Watch (HRW) after the organization’s executive director was denied entry to Hong Kong at the weekend. “It’s not simply a suppression at home, but it’s attacks on virtually any body, company, government, international institution that tries to uphold human rights or hold Beijing to account,” HRW’s executive director Kenneth Roth told TIME ahead of the report’s release.

https://time.com/5764561/china-human-rights-report/

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@divegeester said
Err sorry got that wrong, no...actually China poses an “existential threat” to the international human rights system according to one source (HRW report published by Time Jan 14th 2020).

“Authorities dramatically stepped up repression and systematic abuses against the 13 million Turkic Muslims, including Uyghurs and ethnic Kazakhs, in China’s northwestern Xinji ...[text shortened]... Roth told TIME ahead of the report’s release.

https://time.com/5764561/china-human-rights-report/
I'll give you a point or 2 for this, but I would add the same can be said for Russia, Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.

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@mchill said
I'll give you a point or 2 for this, but I would add the same can be said for Russia, Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.
And the U.S.

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@mchill said
I'll give you a point or 2 for this
Thanks, I will add it to the somewhat oblique one I was making 🙂

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@divegeester said
Err sorry got that wrong, no...actually China poses an “existential threat” to the international human rights system according to one source (HRW report published by Time Jan 14th 2020).

“Authorities dramatically stepped up repression and systematic abuses against the 13 million Turkic Muslims, including Uyghurs and ethnic Kazakhs, in China’s northwestern Xinji ...[text shortened]... Roth told TIME ahead of the report’s release.

https://time.com/5764561/china-human-rights-report/
Oh, I’m sure Amnesty is an ignorant Western Male run organisation with racist attitudes towards China...

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@shavixmir said
Oh, I’m sure Amnesty is an ignorant Western Male run organisation with racist attitudes towards China...
Duchess64 is probably having difficulty with her phone again.

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@mchill said
I'll give you a point or 2 for this, but I would add the same can be said for Russia, Iraq, Iran, and North Korea.
I do not understand the motive for deflecting from the human rights abuses of China.

Feeling a little guilty about all of your made in China purchases?

The supreme hypocrisy of the USA is that they sanction Iran for human rights abuses while making China their #1 trade partner for doing worse on a larger scale.

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@Philokalia
Well it may be hypocritical but I don't thing we would get anywhere swapping trading partners from China to Iran.

Like it or no, we have to deal with China as it is now and all the bitching about human rights issues will never be solved by ANY country on the planet.
China has a free hand to do whatever it wants and human rights is not a big issue with the Chinese. D64 has said the Chinese are not as single minded as US citizens think but it still looks like they want to at least be rid of Muslims, that seems clear.

And not a THING will or can be done about it.

But look at the difference in the US, China is diverse but the US has just a few different kind of folks and the wholesale importation of slaves for hundreds of years has left the US with some 17% of the population as black as well as indigenes and Asians.

A MUCH higher percentage than in China and we dealt with blacks by lynching them for CENTURIES.

So the US doesn't have any moral grounds to bring up human rights issues in China since by absolute numbers the number of Muslims in China are a very small percentage of the population while we deal systemic racism to tens of MILLIONS of blacks and browns in the US.

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Changed your avatar again, I notice. Michael Palin, is it?

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@sonhouse said
@Philokalia
Well it may be hypocritical but I don't thing we would get anywhere swapping trading partners from China to Iran.
The real swap that "we" could have made would be to have swapped Saudi Arabia for Iran.

Since almost all the jihadist atrocities that have taken place in Western countries have been committed by Sunni Muslims radicalised under the influence of Salafite doctrine exported from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf monarchies, it would have been, on balance, a prudent swap. It should probably have happened on September 12th, 2001.

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@teinosuke said
The real swap that "we" could have made would be to have swapped Saudi Arabia for Iran.

Since almost all the jihadist atrocities that have taken place in Western countries have been committed by Sunni Muslims radicalised under the influence of Salafite doctrine exported from Saudi Arabia and other Gulf monarchies, it would have been, on balance, a prudent swap. It should probably have happened on September 12th, 2001.
That would've been a better swap morally but not financially. Which is the U.S. cares about

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