Originally posted by scottishinnzThe Cold War epicenter was the Fuldah plains, or gap, of Europe, specifically in Germany, where the Russians would have invaded had they the balls to do so. American and allied resolve prevented this while ancillarily the Korean conflict, Vietnam conflict, the Cuban missile crises, and Grenada pitted the East vs. the West resulting in millions of deaths for no reason. Now, the "Chuppies" (Chinese yuppies) in Shanghai are walking around with 4 cell phones, driving a Benz, and drinking lattes at Starbucks while Wal-Mart slowly takes over the world...
Really? My impression of it was that the cold war was largely a US construct to keep communism from spreading. The evil communists, hah, don't exist. What about the Chinese - they're hardly spreading out to take over the world!
Originally posted by orfeoI think the "new threat" slammed into the World Trade Centers....😲
I recently saw a documentary that traced the origins of the current terrorism threat, which went as far back as 1980. It explained how certain elements in America had presented communism as 'the big threat' and how, when the Soviet Union collapsed, they had to find a new 'big threat' in order to continue their own warlike stance.
So yeah, some Americans like having unofficial wars.
Originally posted by chancremechanicShame Americas actions at the end of WW2 caused the whole thing in the first place. If only you'd listened to Churchill.
The Cold War epicenter was the Fuldah plains, or gap, of Europe, specifically in Germany, where the Russians would have invaded had they the balls to do so. American and allied resolve prevented this while ancillarily the Korean conflict, Vietnam conflict, the Cuban missile crises, and Grenada pitted the East vs. the West resulting in millions of de ...[text shortened]... driving a Benz, and drinking lattes at Starbucks while Wal-Mart slowly takes over the world...
Originally posted by scottishinnzWhat do you mean "No one wins wars"? There is always a winner, or a loser, or a stalemate. If I play a game of chess, and I checkmate you, I WON the game, even though I lost half of my peices.
Where is the 'win' in having a countries young men and women killed?
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Originally posted by flyUnityCan you justify this analogy? Chess is cosmetically similar to war, but has different causes and social and economic implications. If dead soldiers were the only consequence of wars, and winning was well-defined by rules as it is in chess, then I'd be willing to admit that there are winners and losers. However, your analogy is incomplete because, AFAIK, there is no formal definition of victory in war akin to checkmate.
What do you mean "No one wins wars"? There is always a winner, or a loser, or a stalemate. If I play a game of chess, and I checkmate you, I WON the game, even though I lost half of my peices.
Originally posted by flyUnitydepends on how much value you put on your pieces. What if they are real people? What are acceptable losses then? Are the losses worth any gains made by a war of aggression? (let's face it, you cannot defend yourself unless there is an aggressor)
What do you mean "No one wins wars"? There is always a winner, or a loser, or a stalemate. If I play a game of chess, and I checkmate you, I WON the game, even though I lost half of my peices.
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Originally posted by chancremechanicthere's a wal-mart in beijing, now. it has cheaper prices, too. for some stuff.
The Cold War epicenter was the Fuldah plains, or gap, of Europe, specifically in Germany, where the Russians would have invaded had they the balls to do so. American and allied resolve prevented this while ancillarily the Korean conflict, Vietnam conflict, the Cuban missile crises, and Grenada pitted the East vs. the West resulting in millions of de driving a Benz, and drinking lattes at Starbucks while Wal-Mart slowly takes over the world...
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Originally posted by orfeoi think you forgot the "drug war".
I recently saw a documentary that traced the origins of the current terrorism threat, which went as far back as 1980. It explained how certain elements in America had presented communism as 'the big threat' and how, when the Soviet Union collapsed, they had to find a new 'big threat' in order to continue their own warlike stance.
So yeah, some Americans like having unofficial wars.
i wonder what war will be next?
perhaps a war on obesity.