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@kevcvs57 said
So NRA off the hook, victims blamed, right wing fundamentalist political views vindicated.
Not bad whodey, not bad at all.
Just pointing out here that the system is overwhelmed with warnings.

America now has schools full of sociopaths capable of this sort of thing. I know, I know, the secularization of society has absolutely nothing to do with this, it's all Trump's fault. Thanks for that.

The thing that gets me though is, the school had the gall to come after the whistle blower who tried to sound the alarm.

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@caissad4 said
You are wrong.
The parents are to blame. A lack of parental responsibility helps to create these kinds of monsters. Parents teach their kids there are no consequences for anything so things continue to escalate.
No you are wrong
A society that worships the individual whilst reeling in horror at any suggestion of communal responsibility to the group coupled with the availability of firearms is always going to produce the perfect storm of alienation and the means to exercise the resulting anger and resentment.

We have a big problem with knife crime in the uk at the moment probably because the same alienation and lack of communal support and whilst the body count is high I would hate to think of what the numbers might be if those young men had access to automatic weapons.

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@caissad4 said
You are wrong.
The parents are to blame. A lack of parental responsibility helps to create these kinds of monsters. Parents teach their kids there are no consequences for anything so things continue to escalate.
Nope, its all the guns fault. Do away with guns and we can have our utopia.

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@whodey said
Nope, its all the guns fault. Do away with guns and we can have our utopia.
Serious people have never asked for guns to be banned but they are asking for sensible control over which guns should be available, who can buy them and how those people store them.
But yeah keep pedalling the NRA BS I expect the cheques in the post.

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@kevcvs57 said
No you are wrong
A society that worships the individual whilst reeling in horror at any suggestion of communal responsibility to the group coupled with the availability of firearms is always going to produce the perfect storm of alienation and the means to exercise the resulting anger and resentment.

We have a big problem with knife crime in the uk at the moment probably ...[text shortened]... would hate to think of what the numbers might be if those young men had access to automatic weapons.
Absolving personal responsibility for actions is not the way to go. People are not lab rats that are experimented upon and generational points of view can not be changed by social programs.

How much experience do you have in dealing with the poor? I have seen first hand some basic problems in point of view which prevents the poor from succeeding in education and it has nothing to do with having money.

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@mott-the-hoople said
question...do criminals obey laws?
Question: how many school shootings are commitred by career criminals, rather than nutjobs?

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@eladar said
Absolving personal responsibility for actions is not the way to go. People are not lab rats that are experimented upon and generational points of view can not be changed by social programs.

How much experience do you have in dealing with the poor? I have seen first hand some basic problems in point of view which prevents the poor from succeeding in education and it has nothing to do with having money.
Your either a liar or very bad at observational techniques, we know that the children of the poor would not exist if the poor had more money because we are not stupid.
Of course some people regardless of money have learning difficulties, or personality issues that make it difficult for them. but in reality the more resources a child has access to the better they do in school.
I have a really good knowledge of the poor by virtue of the fact that I grew up with them, went to school with them, and every night I got tucked into bed by them.

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@kevcvs57

Have you ever had direct dealings with the poor and tbeir generational points of view?

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@eladar said
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Have you ever had direct dealings with the poor and tbeir generational points of view?
Read the above post again and get back to me. I haven’t won the lottery or chased down a leprechaun.

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@kevcvs57

Is a teacher's job to make you learn or provide you with an opportunity to learn?

Why behave in class?

Why do assignments for you class?

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@eladar said
@kevcvs57

Is a teacher's job to make you learn or provide you with an opportunity to learn?

Why behave in class?

Why do assignments for you class?
I gather English isn't the subject you teach.
BTW, how goes it with the El/Shav wars?
I wasn't dissing your wife BTW, just pulling your chain.

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You overlooked the insult, giving it a level of acceptance. Gentlemen should not do that.

As for English, no I do math. My math aptitude is on the high side. I am no genius but still around top 10 percent. 720 math SAT if you want to see where that landed me. My English scores were always very average for a college grad during the late 80's early 90's. I say that because today's grads are worse.

This phone does not help either.

Let me see if you answered my question.

Edit...no you did not bother to answer.

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@kevcvs57

Vocabulary is a huge issue as well.

www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-athletes-way/201402/tackling-the-vocabulary-gap-between-rich-and-poor-children

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@kevcvs57

Did you decide to quit the discussion?

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@eladar said
@kevcvs57

Did you decide to quit the discussion?
No it’s just that I’m in the Uk and we are in a different time zone and I’m up at 5:30 am for work.
But to be honest even if was working a night shift I’m not sure how I would answer you questions given their nature.
I’m claiming that poor parents can raise viable and useful adult members of society if society steps up and assists them with the resources required, such as good quality education and financial safety nets that prevent those families from falling into either absolute or extreme relative poverty. The important point for society is that we either support the child or suffer the consequences of the angry alienated adult. The blame game might make the better off feel like they are off the hook but it has no practical effect whatsoever.
In regards to your question about vocabulary, yes of course its an excellent tool with which to equip oneself regardless of income bracket.

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