09 Nov 09
Originally posted by MelanerpesEveryone needs a little help from time to time. Now will you answer, is the agendas everyone is talking about in America more important than the ability for Parents to take care of thier childrten?
Many of those churches and entitlements do help people to help themselves. Many offer services like education, job training, counseling, legal services, etc. Or do you believe that everyone should be expected to go it alone without any help from anyone else?
09 Nov 09
Originally posted by torch71I agree. It's very important that parents are able to care for their children. And that's why there are various programs, both public and private, available to help those parents who are struggling. Is there something specific that you feel needs to be done to help these parents further?
Everyone needs a little help from time to time. Now will you answer, is the agendas everyone is talking about in America more important than the ability for Parents to take care of thier childrten?
09 Nov 09
Originally posted by FMFAnd what about the growing number of unemployed? Gov gets thier money from the employed right, so wouldn't common sense say the more people employed the more money they would have for things such as Healthcare and Education right?
Government can do this by improving health and education services.
09 Nov 09
Originally posted by MelanerpesAbsolutely consentrate on creating employment before you worry about all of the other programs. Maybe not healthcare as much, but cap and trade? all of the other B.S. things they are coming up with.
I agree. It's very important that parents are able to care for their children. And that's why there are various programs, both public and private, available to help those parents who are struggling. Is there something specific that you feel needs to be done to help these parents further?
In my opinion Employment, Healthcare and the Troops should be top priority on thier minds right now.
09 Nov 09
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Originally posted by torch71I thought you didn't think that healthcare was an important issue. Now it's #2 on your list? Well, no argument from me on that one.
Absolutely consentrate on creating employment before you worry about all of the other programs. Maybe not healthcare as much, but cap and trade? all of the other B.S. things they are coming up with.
In my opinion Employment, Healthcare and the Troops should be top priority on thier minds right now.
I also agree that the cap and trade debate should be delayed until the economy is back on track. But with 2010 being an election year, I doubt anything as controversial as cap and trade will get much airplay.
As for job creation, one idea being floated is having another round of stimulus. Possibly in part by taking money already authorized for transportation and other infrastructure over the next five years and spending more of it now. Do you have any other ideas on this issue?
09 Nov 09
Originally posted by MelanerpesAlthough, I believe that infrastucture is needed but only few jobs are created by it considering the population that is unemployed. We need to let small businesses grow in large proportions. If they can regulate earnings bonuses for banks, why can they not make them give sound small business loans.
I thought you didn't think that healthcare was an important issue. Now it's #2 on your list? Well, no argument from me on that one.
I also agree that the cap and trade debate should be delayed until the economy is back on track. But with 2010 being an election year, I doubt anything as controversial as cap and trade will get much airplay.
As for job ...[text shortened]... er the next five years and spending more of it now. Do you have any other ideas on this issue?
They pull thier wieght to cut bonuses then act like thier hands are tied and say banks arn't lending.
I also think there should be much more debate on the healthcare to get it right and not just to get it passed as I feel they are doing.
09 Nov 09
Originally posted by torch71When consumers stop spending, it means that businesses don't sell as much stuff and have to cut back on production (and jobs). Banks are very wary about making loans when businesses aren't selling as much stuff and cutting back. And even if these banks are willing to give out loans, businesses that are cutting back aren't very interested in taking any loans.
Although, I believe that infrastucture is needed but only few jobs are created by it considering the population that is unemployed. We need to let small businesses grow in large proportions. If they can regulate earnings bonuses for banks, why can they not make them give sound small business loans.
They pull thier wieght to cut bonuses then act like thier ...[text shortened]... ebate on the healthcare to get it right and not just to get it passed as I feel they are doing.
So you end up with consumers afraid to spend, businesses afraid to invest and hire, and banks afraid to make loans. And everyone is waiting for someone else to start spending before they feel it's safe to spend themselves. And so everyone just ends up waiting.
The idea behind government stimulus is that government borrows money from all these people who are waiting for Godot, and gets things going itself by spending on infrastructure and other programs -- and hopefully, this gets everyone else out of the waiting game.
09 Nov 09
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Originally posted by torch71In other words, consider any other change ECXEPT changing direction from the Bush/Obama direction and stop whining? No thanks, we need to change course.
[b]I wish everyone would lay the Obama critisism and the Bush critisism to rest and start lookin at common sense for a change.
09 Nov 09
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Originally posted by FMFYea, Bush passed one of the largest entitlement policies in US history so that seniors could have "free" perscription medications and now Obama is proposing the mother of all entitlement programs so that people could have "free" health care. Problem is, is that NOTHING is free..
Government can do this by improving health and education services.
I have a sneaking suspicion that Bush and Obama were twins at birth.
As for improving education, how about closing down failing inner city public schools? How about seding them to school with the "rich" kids" whether they be public or private schools? My guess is that the powers that be don't want their children exposed to such ilk. They would rather continue the segregation of the classes.
09 Nov 09
Who said fighting "global warming" (or just shifting to renewable resources, if you will) is a cause of poverty? Unemployment is not caused by expenses against global warming, it's caused by inefficiency and bureaucracy. Norway's electricity is 100% green, and unemployment there is at a few %.
09 Nov 09
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Originally posted by whodeyAs for improving education, how about closing down failing inner city public schools? How about seding them to school with the "rich" kids" whether they be public or private schools? My guess is that the powers that be don't want their children exposed to such ilk. They would rather continue the segregation of the classes.
Yea, Bush passed one of the largest entitlement policies in US history so that seniors could have "free" perscription medications and now Obama is proposing the mother of all entitlement programs so that people could have "free" health care. Problem is, is that NOTHING is free..
I have a sneaking suspicion that Bush and Obama were twins at birth.
As hildren exposed to such ilk. They would rather continue the segregation of the classes.
My guess is that the great majority of the folks attending those tea parties wouldn't be too thrilled about this idea if the influx of poor kids affected the school districts their own kids were attending.
But maybe I'm wrong. Next time you attend a tea party, see if you can get the ball rolling on this.
09 Nov 09
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Originally posted by MelanerpesSo what would be their fear? Their fear would be that the "good" schools would be run into the ground like the "bad" schools. I think this is a justifiable concern. So what should be done to prevent this? I know, how about a zero telerance for drugs/violence in the public schools? How about giving the schools the ability to discipline children and instilling a sense of morality in them without fear of getting sued? How about giving daad beat teachings the boot?
My guess is that the great majority of the folks attending those tea parties wouldn't be too thrilled about this idea if the influx of poor kids affected the school districts their own kids were attending.
But maybe I'm wrong. Next time you attend a tea party, see if you can get the ball rolling on this.[/b]
Sorry, now I'm just takling crazy. 🙄
09 Nov 09
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Originally posted by Melanerpesyou'd force congressmen etc. to put their kids in D.C PUBLIC SCHOOLS?!?! 😲😲😲
[b]As for improving education, how about closing down failing inner city public schools? How about seding them to school with the "rich" kids" whether they be public or private schools? My guess is that the powers that be don't want their children exposed to such ilk. They would rather continue the segregation of the classes.
My guess is that th I'm wrong. Next time you attend a tea party, see if you can get the ball rolling on this.[/b]