20 Feb 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWhat post? If you're referring to your rant about "libs" and "chimps" I can't make sense of these ravings. If your point is that it's inconsistent to be against drug laws but for gun control, I agree and do not support gun control (at least short of machine guns anyway) and believe in an individual's right to self-defense. Does that answer THAT question?
Ok. Time out.
I have read this entire thread and the marauder has not posted a single idea. Ivan is frustrated.
I say, go try to think up a subject for a thread, marauder. Let's see if anyone can pose a thought or two here. We know you are a powerful chimp. Go get a subject and -- good luck.
Hell. See his (raider-of-food-stuff-from-children, ...[text shortened]... me"
Then see my post about what is wrong with this dim-witted notion and let's debate that.
20 Feb 05
Originally posted by no1marauder
What post? If you're referring to your rant about "libs" and "chimps" I can't make sense of these ravings. If your point is that it's inconsistent to be against drug laws but for gun control, I agree and do not support gun control (at least short of machine guns anyway) and believe in an individual's right to self-defense. Does that answer THAT question?
Are you a member of the National Rifle Assocation, No1 ?
21 Feb 05
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Originally posted by no1marauderI am simply pointing out that you never have offered a thesis or a single idea here except to support the silly notion that "simply owning child porn" isn't wrong.
What post? If you're referring to your rant about "libs" and "chimps" I can't make sense of these ravings. If your point is that it's inconsistent to be against drug laws but for gun control, I agree and do not support gun ...[text shortened]... dividual's right to self-defense. Does that answer THAT question?
See my ideas on the fact that you are what passes for a Lib these days. It was just a couple (of posts) after that totally stupid statement of yours, I believe.
21 Feb 05
Originally posted by ivanhoeNo, but the position above is consistent with my "individual freedom first" philosophy. I have owned and fired guns in the past and I was in the US Navy but I don't own any guns anymore (good thing too as I probably would have shot one of my sideboards when I blundered away my Queen in a game recently).
Are you a member of the National Rifle Assocation, No1 ?
21 Feb 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyI didn't deal with "right" or "wrong"; I just said I don't believe it should be a criminal offense to merely possess such an item. I don't require everything I believe to be "wrong" to made part of the criminal law and people be imprisoned for things I might think are "wrong" but do no direct harm to others. If you wish to debate that do so; if all you want to do is rant and rave and throw childish insults I won't waste my time with such idiotic tripe.
I am simply pointing out that you never have offered a thesis or a single idea here except to support the silly notion that "simply owning child porn" isn't wrong.
See my ideas on the fact that you are what passes for a Lib these days. It was just a couple (of posts) after that totally stupid statement of yours, I believe.
21 Feb 05
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Originally posted by no1marauderLOL
No, but the position above is consistent with my "individual freedom first" philosophy. I have owned and fired guns in the past and I was in the US Navy but I don't own any guns anymore (good thing too as I probably would have ...[text shortened]... my sideboards when I blundered away my Queen in a game recently).
That makes real good sense. I have almost killed myself with ole' bertha a couple of times. Once when I got too drunk to pee alone in the forest and stumbled into a camp fire, catching her trigger on my stupid finger... and again when I was shootin' at geese while flyin' the old Cub on the salt river in star valley and accidently laughed too hard as I jambed ole' bertha between my legs to do a split-s before I killed my silly ass. The gun went off and blew a hole right through the old J3. ooopsss!
21 Feb 05
Ok. There are some who are lost on what my last post was about.
Imagine the "absurdity" of flying along in a little bit of an airplane at about twenty feet altitude, with both the left and right doors opened up against the wing, with a colt 45 blastin' away at geese who are helter-skelter about you.
The "odds" of hitting anything is the humor. It was funny then, and it is funny now. But it was fun. maybe that is the lesson.
Hell. I don't know. I do remember that I took my old '49 Studebaker convertible into Afton that night and almost got layed. That was cool. Where are you Charlene? all these years later? I wonder.
21 Feb 05
Originally posted by no1marauderSay what?
I didn't deal with "right" or "wrong"; I just said I don't believe it should be a criminal offense to merely possess such an item. I don't require everything I believe to be "wrong" to made part of the criminal law and people be imprisoned for things I might think are "wrong" but do no direct harm to others. If you wish to debate that ...[text shortened]... o do is rant and rave and throw childish insults I won't waste my time with such idiotic tripe.
Do you favor a good person owning a fifty calibre gun or not?
That is the only question.
I don't want bad guys to own guns. I want them locked up. Or killed if they killed.
How about you? What are you saying?
If i want a gun that can penetrate an inch of steel at a thousand yard, should I have the right to buy and use it?
My point is that you are just going along with your religion. It makes for no argument if you just say you are for gun rights but oppose gun rights. That is the "pretty boy" solution. You look good at all of your social parties and gatherings.
But. In the real world. Which is the "weapon"? The gun or the person?
21 Feb 05
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Originally posted by StarValleyWyAre you for gun rights or not? Why do you want the government to have the power to say person A is "good" and therefore may own a gun but person B is "bad" so he may not? You're starting to sound like some kind of totalitarian there, SVW; Joe Stalin would have been proud!
Say what?
Do you favor a good person owning a fifty calibre gun or not?
That is the only question.
I don't want bad guys to own guns. I want them locked up. Or killed if they killed.
How about you? What are you saying?
...[text shortened]... In the real world. Which is the "weapon"? The gun or the person?
The right being protected is the right of self-defense, a natural and basic one. However, you don't require a .50 cal or a tank or the battleship Missouri to defend your person (though it would be cool to have one or all of them).
21 Feb 05
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Originally posted by no1marauderYea. Drugs and guns are not the purview of government.
Are you for gun rights or not? Why do you want the government to have the power to say person A is "good" and therefore may own a gun but person B is "bad" so he may not? You're starting to sound like some kind of totalitaria ...[text shortened]... your person (though it would be cool to have one or all of them).
Nice duck, by the way. Folks. Notice how no. 1 can still go to all his parties because he holds to his religion? He can smile and look em' all in the eye and say he is the ultimate liberal? After all. He has defended the current position of his religion. "Guns Are Bad".
I am for human rights. The right to own guns seems a rather trivial part of that because we are the race that invented tools. Guns are just a tool.
For a criminal, they are a tool to intimidate and extract the will of the victim.
For the rest of us, they are for enjoyment as a toy to point and test our skill. Or they can be used against a criminal.
They (guns) have no "nobility". They are not good or bad. They are just a tool. Like a kitchen knife. They can kill or not. Just a tool.
But your religion demands you oppose them. Ok.
Just don't expect any sympathy from us liberals when you make fun of christians.
21 Feb 05
Originally posted by StarValleyWyWhere did I say I believed "Guns are Bad"? I didn't say it and I don't believe it. You might try actually reading someone's posts if you're debating them.
Yea. Drugs and guns are not the purview of government.
Nice duck, by the way. Folks. Notice how no. 1 can still go to all his parties because he holds to his religion? He can smile and look em' all in the eye and say he is the ultimate liberal? After all. He has defended the current position of his religion. "Guns Are Bad".
I am for human righ ...[text shortened]... e them. Ok.
Just don't expect any sympathy from us liberals when you make fun of christians.