03 Feb 10
Originally posted by whodeyFirst of all,there would be no more pimps.If you have lived in Europe as I have you would know the brothels run just fine.
Well they are legalizing gambling across the country so why not other vices? In fact, why not legalize prostitution and tax pimps? That way we could have state run brothel houses like there are state run liquor stores. Next to it you could have gambling. After all, the ills of society is really about a lack of money, right?
Had you ever considered the ...[text shortened]... ill find a way to create a massive deficit. Its a spending problem, not a money making problem.
There would be know more dealers as well.
The prison systems would be freed up and there would be room for real criminals such as pedophiles.
Based upon state and federal data for fiscal year 2009, every second the Drug War Cost Clock registers another $1,673.45 that is spent by our government each and every second of every day, For 2009, the federal portion of the Drug War budget will amount to
$22.074 billion. (these are the most conservative estimates)
The state portion of the Drug War costs comes from a report titled, "Shoveling Up: The Impact of Substance Abuse on State Budgets", authored by The National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University, in 2001, which in its press release and on page 3, shows that states spent $30.7 billion in 1998 on "the burden of substance abuse on the justice system -- for incarceration, probation and parole, juvenile justice and criminal and family court costs of substance involved offenders". In other words, that $30.7 billion represents only "justice-related" (Drug War) expenses in state drug budgets.
03 Feb 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonGood idea. I'd like to see gambling and prostitution limited to red light districts though. No need for a brothel to open across the street from my kid's school.
Abolish the war on drugs. Legalize marijuana and tax it.
Legalize gambling nation wide,tax
legalize prostitution,tax
These three changes would free up enormous amounts of money as well bring in even more.
03 Feb 10
Originally posted by sh76Yikes, I just found my tax advisor,,, yippeee.
There will always be tax loopholes. Completely closing estate tax work-arounds is impossible.
On the contrary, the higher the estate tax and the tougher it is to work around, the better it is for me and my firm.
03 Feb 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonthat doesn't sound like much.
[b]First of all,there would be no more pimps.If you have lived in Europe as I have you would know the brothels run just fine.
There would be know more dealers as well.
The prison systems would be freed up and there would be room for real criminals such as pedophiles.
Based upon state and federal data for fiscal year 2009, every second the Dr ...[text shortened]... 7 billion represents only "justice-related" (Drug War) expenses in state drug budgets.[/b][/b]
03 Feb 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonGambling and prostitution have been legalized here, and I don't think it's bringing in that much revenue. Of course, every bit helps.
Abolish the war on drugs. Legalize marijuana and tax it.
Legalize gambling nation wide,tax
legalize prostitution,tax
These three changes would free up enormous amounts of money as well bring in even more.
03 Feb 10
Originally posted by KazetNagorraYeah. This deficits problem is not going to be solved just by taxing any small subset of consumption goods. Even if those taxes brought in the revenues uther predicts (and I'm skeptical that they would), we'd only be raising billions. To fix this problem we need to be making up trillions.
Gambling and prostitution have been legalized here, and I don't think it's bringing in that much revenue. Of course, every bit helps.
04 Feb 10
Originally posted by utherpendragonI never said that the way the state goes about its business is good, rather, I only am pointing to the fact that these vices will burden the welfare state further. I am not advocating a war on these vices per say as I am the state declaring them to be "bad" for society.
[b]First of all,there would be no more pimps.If you have lived in Europe as I have you would know the brothels run just fine.
There would be know more dealers as well.
The prison systems would be freed up and there would be room for real criminals such as pedophiles.
Based upon state and federal data for fiscal year 2009, every second the Dr ...[text shortened]... 7 billion represents only "justice-related" (Drug War) expenses in state drug budgets.[/b][/b]
04 Feb 10
Originally posted by telerionI say it woud not even save billions. I say if they saved billiions they would spent trillions because they had just saved billions.
Yeah. This deficits problem is not going to be solved just by taxing any small subset of consumption goods. Even if those taxes brought in the revenues uther predicts (and I'm skeptical that they would), we'd only be raising billions. To fix this problem we need to be making up trillions.
04 Feb 10
Originally posted by whodeyYes... basically. 😛
So its OK somewhere else jus so long as it does not effect your family?
What I mean is that if it's in designated areas that people can, by choice, stay away from if they so choose, that's less of a danger than if they're interspersed among grocery stores, schools, residences, etc.
04 Feb 10
Originally posted by sh76Why not just build a very tall fence around that area where people can't get out and call it a day? 😛
Yes... basically. 😛
What I mean is that if it's in designated areas that people can, by choice, stay away from if they so choose, that's less of a danger than if they're interspersed among grocery stores, schools, residences, etc.
04 Feb 10
Originally posted by telerionYeah, I think it's bringing in something on the order of a few hundred million euros here, so that would equate to billions in the U.S.
Yeah. This deficits problem is not going to be solved just by taxing any small subset of consumption goods. Even if those taxes brought in the revenues uther predicts (and I'm skeptical that they would), we'd only be raising billions. To fix this problem we need to be making up trillions.
04 Feb 10
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Originally posted by sh76For now maybe. Who knows how long before society freed of all its inhibitions embraces that continuum of orgiastic bliss across the full sprectrum of human sexuality and before you know it as the god/goddess rises within, we may value the art of giving and receiving pleasure so muchl, that we may even insist that our schools provide the very best in harem ed our tax dollars can buy.
Good idea. I'd like to see gambling and prostitution limited to red light districts though. No need for a brothel to open across the street from my kid's school.
04 Feb 10
Originally posted by kmax87I highly doubt the legalization of marijuana for example, would cause a spike in its consumption contributing to the decline of civilized culture. Most of the people who would use it already are.
For now maybe. Who knows how long before society freed of all its inhibitions embraces that continuum of orgiastic bliss across the full sprectrum of human sexuality and before you know it as the god/goddess rises within, we may value the art of giving and receiving pleasure so muchl, that we may even insist that our schools provide the very best in harem ed our tax dollars can buy.
Alcohol is a fine example of this. Just because it is legal does not mean everybody out there is drinking to excess or becoming alcoholics. Just the savings on legalizing it alone would be around $40 billion a year. The revenue from taxing it,liscensing growers,distributers,sellers would be astronomical.