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Originally posted by kirksey957
Even cheaper than cremation is the option of donating your body to a medical school for study. They will eventually cremate you. Cost: $0
My great grand parents both did that. It is a bit hard to think about, but it is a good thing to do.

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Originally posted by rapalla7
My nieghbor was telling me that if you are creamated (being christian) you cannot get into heaven, according to the canon of the Church.
Is that right?
I am not being cremated!

After all, as a non-believer, why should I burn before I have to?

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It's always confused me why anyone has any opinion at all on what happens to their body after they're dead.

I really don't care, I'll have finished using it by then.

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There is now a new option for disposing of bodies that I read about in the news.

Not sure if I remember it all correctly but the problem is that many countries in Europe are running out of suitable space for burials and it turns out that cremation in fact causes an evironmental hazard.
When bodies with metal replacement parts, tooth fillings, etc are burned, things like mercury vapour are released into the atmosphere.

So a Swedish (I think) company has come up with an answer that is both environmentally friendly and space saving, 🙂

The process goes something like this :
1. The corpse is frozen in liquid nitrogen.
2. Then subjected to some kind of sonic wave or vibration to reduce the corpse to powder.
3. A heavy magnetic field is then used to extract metal parts (not sure how non-ferrous removed)
4. High vacuum is applied to extract all moisture (freeze drying?)
5. Remaining material is then compressed into a handy cube.
6. Cube placed in bio-degradable cardboard carton.
7. Regular burial using only a fraction of the space for a casket.
8. The company offers an option to provede a Rhodedendron (or other shrub) to plant over the cube, thus the corpse has not only acted responsibly but helps to nourish a bush.

Fantastic!! 😲

So, what do you think, is this an acceptable form of body disposal?
Furthermore, would it be Heaven or Hell !? 🙂

P.S.
Apologies for any inaccuracies, I couldn't be bothered to look up the news article.

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Originally posted by ShallowBlue
There is now a new option for disposing of bodies that I read about in the news.

Not sure if I remember it all correctly but the problem is that many countries in Europe are running out of suitable space for burials and it turns out that cremation in fact causes an evironmental hazard.
When bodies with metal replacement parts, tooth fillings, etc are ...[text shortened]... 🙂

P.S.
Apologies for any inaccuracies, I couldn't be bothered to look up the news article.
Wouldn't it be easier to get rid ot all the high eneregy using techno stuff?

A cotton shroud or a plain pine box, no embalming, a burial and let nature takes its course.

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Originally posted by kirksey957
Even cheaper than cremation is the option of donating your body to a medical school for study. They will eventually cremate you. Cost: $0
Not to mention that you contribut to the enjoyment of a bunch of medical students who, by tradition, play various hilarious pranks, such as hiding hands in people's bags and playing around with dead genitals.

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Originally posted by steerpike
Wouldn't it be easier to get rid ot all the high eneregy using techno stuff?

A cotton shroud or a plain pine box, no embalming, a burial and let nature takes its course.
What about the space problem?

When people are buried rather than cremated they mainly expect a churchyard or other suitable place! Not stuck out in the woods somewhere. (At least the families do if not the deceased )🙂

Trouble is, suitable sites are running low on space for future customers.



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Originally posted by ShallowBlue
There is now a new option for disposing of bodies that I read about in the news.

Not sure if I remember it all correctly but the problem is that many countries in Europe are running out of suitable space for burials and it turns out that cremation in fact causes an evironmental hazard.
When bodies with metal replacement parts, tooth fillings, etc are ...[text shortened]... 🙂

P.S.
Apologies for any inaccuracies, I couldn't be bothered to look up the news article.
I like the Idea. I think I would rather be frozen than burned myself, but for me I don't think it would work. I want to be scattered into the river not ooozed. Of course I could be balled up into catfish bait and that would achieve my goal...coming back as a catfish.😀

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Originally posted by ShallowBlue
What about the space problem?

When people are buried rather than cremated they mainly expect a churchyard or other suitable place! Not stuck out in the woods somewhere. (At least the families do if not the deceased )🙂

Trouble is, suitable sites are running low on space for future customers.



Not a space problem at all - you reuse the same grave in a decade or so. Ignoring any old bones. tooth fillings and metal hip joints in the hole.

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Originally posted by steerpike
Not a space problem at all - you reuse the same grave in a decade or so. Ignoring any old bones. tooth fillings and metal hip joints in the hole.
Hi Steerpike

This is commonly done at the moment. Married couples and family members often elect to use the same grave.
I'm not sure if you are suggesting that graves should be shared universally by all members of society? I have no particular argument against that idea on a personal level but there are potential problems, not with the dead of course, but with the living family of the deceased. How would you get around the idea that graves are considered by many to be a place of respect and not to be desecrated, i.e. by opening them and dumping a complete stranger in on top of grandpa.

I'd be interested to know what any religious posters think of this idea of communally re-using graves. Are there any specific church laws against strangers sharing the same plot??

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Originally posted by ShallowBlue
Hi Steerpike

This is commonly done at the moment. Married couples and family members often elect to use the same grave.
I'm not sure if you are suggesting that graves should be shared universally by all members of society? I have no particular argument against that idea on a personal level but there are potential problems, not with the dead of cour ...[text shortened]... Are there any specific church laws against strangers sharing the same plot??

Regards,
SB

Not so much sharing - the old body has turned to dust. Not really sure how long it takes - maybe we are talking decades.

Must admit - I do like visiting the graves of family members. Then I live in a sparsely populated place and the space is not a problem. But how long do you keep graves - especailly those where there is no family connections?

It is hard to accept your body will decompose and be no more - almost a second death. I would perfer it to be a natural process, not freeze dried and powdered.


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cremation ! and the ashes to the W.C. period !

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