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16 Aug 23
18 Aug 23
@wildgrass saidI don't think she got that far. She and Trump just stood in one place, but neither of them swung a machete. I understand Trump just watched TV. Maybe you have him mixed up with someone else.
Yeah they disrupted. They stopped the count. They took it over. Legislators ran and hid. The vote counters reconvened much later in the evening after security cleared them to return. That crowd did stuff for sure. They did what was asked of them.
The real crimes were cooked up by the lawyers though, with a seemingly legitimate plot to install a president in office who lost an election. Did Maxine do that?
@averagejoe1 saidOh, please.
Oh, Really, Suzianne? Maxine Waters is on the list. She riled up a crowd, inciting them to Impeach 45, you may recall. Incited, Suzianne. Let's see, I may be able to find a video.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUewLKVODv8
18 Aug 23
@averagejoe1 saidHe just watched TV? Completely unaware of the fake electors, or the threatening phone calls to state governments, or the disinformation campaign convincing people Jan 6th had some significance, or a plan to prevent Biden from collecting the electoral votes that had already been certified in the states? Just oblivious to the gaggle of lawyers writing memos based on garbage legal writings claiming that the voting rights act can be disregarded by the sitting vice president? Does that sound right to you?
I don't think she got that far. She and Trump just stood in one place, but neither of them swung a machete. I understand Trump just watched TV. Maybe you have him mixed up with someone else.
You don't need to swing a machete to participate in a conspiracy. They were planning to supplant the legally elected winner of an election with the loser. You seem fine with it, happy to compare with a dumb whining democrat.
@wildgrass saidTHEY were planning something? Who? To replace Biden, blah blah blah. All I know is that Trump said be peaceful. If they attacked, I truly think they should have beenput in prison till they die.
He just watched TV? Completely unaware of the fake electors, or the threatening phone calls to state governments, or the disinformation campaign convincing people Jan 6th had some significance, or a plan to prevent Biden from collecting the electoral votes that had already been certified in the states? Just oblivious to the gaggle of lawyers writing memos based on garbage l ...[text shortened]... of an election with the loser. You seem fine with it, happy to compare with a dumb whining democrat.
It is not cut and dry that Trump was banana republlic. Nice try, you fellers, but you will need more. I posted a list hereinabove of the disappointment of elections being regarded as wrong by many a politician.
Imagine if Maxiine Waters had succeeded in her incitement...there would have been no trial of her. How bout Swallwell, married, laying with a chinese spy every nite. Hillary's crimes. That queer little anthony weiner who, thru his
'partner' a foreign looking assistant to Hillary, had all of Hillarys laptop info. Nothing happened to him. Diane Feinsteins chinee chauffer who oeverheard all of her privilieged info.
OK you have absorbed all that. "This thread will now self-destruct, do not attempt to reply!"
@averagejoe1 saidFrom the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson to the January 6th Committee:
I don't think she got that far. She and Trump just stood in one place, but neither of them swung a machete. I understand Trump just watched TV. Maybe you have him mixed up with someone else.
"And I remember Pat saying to him something to the effect of, the rioters have gotten to the Capitol, Mark. We need to go down and see the President now. And Mark looked up at him and said, he doesn't want to do anything, Pat. And Pat said something to the effect of — and very clearly had said this to Mark — something to the effect of, Mark, something needs to be done or people are going to die and the blood is going to be on your f'ing hands."
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/28/1108396692/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
"Pat" is Pat Cipollone, Trump's White House Counsel.
"Mark" is Mark Meadows, Trump's Chief of Staff.
And Trump didn't do anything for about two hours except berate his staff for not caring as much about the election as the rioters did.
19 Aug 23
@no1marauder saidWhat made then rioters before they got to the capitol?
From the testimony of Cassidy Hutchinson to the January 6th Committee:
"And I remember Pat saying to him something to the effect of, the rioters have gotten to the Capitol, Mark. We need to go down and see the President now. And Mark looked up at him and said, he doesn't want to do anything, Pat. And Pat said something to the effect of — and very clearly had sai ...[text shortened]... bout two hours except berate his staff for not caring as much about the election as the rioters did.
@averagejoe1 saidDo you spend every night laying awake fantasizing all this stuff?
THEY were planning something? Who? To replace Biden, blah blah blah. All I know is that Trump said be peaceful. If they attacked, I truly think they should have beenput in prison till they die.
It is not cut and dry that Trump was banana republlic. Nice try, you fellers, but you will need more. I posted a list hereinabove of the disappointment of elections being re ...[text shortened]... .
OK you have absorbed all that. "This thread will now self-destruct, do not attempt to reply!"
19 Aug 23
@suzianne saidFunny you say that about me! I just read Marauder post above and wondered if he even has any spare time to get a cup of coffee, with all the research he does. He does not miss a THING. The word rioter was not used until some exact minute. I cannot imagine keying in like that.
Do you spend every night laying awake fantasizing all this stuff?
19 Aug 23
@no1marauder saidEase up on the shift key you're beginning to look like sunstroker. I did read the post and it is specifically the language that caught my eye. I think you should read it again, "the rioters have gotten to the capitol' indicates they were rioters before getting to the capitol.
Try reading that post AGAIN.
It doesn't refer to them as "rioters" until AFTER they reached the Capitol.
19 Aug 23
@wajoma saidHe will have an answer. Libs don't give 'a inch.
Ease up on the shift key you're beginning to look like sunstroker. I did read the post and it is specifically the language that caught my eye. I think you should read it again, "the rioters have gotten to the capitol' indicates they were rioters before getting to the capitol.
19 Aug 23
@wajoma saidHow did they "reach the Capitol"? Apparently, a riot was officially declared at 1:49 PM:
Ease up on the shift key you're beginning to look like sunstroker. I did read the post and it is specifically the language that caught my eye. I think you should read it again, "the rioters have gotten to the capitol' indicates they were rioters before getting to the capitol.
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=youtube+of+capitol+riot&mid=72D5C84BA5F01AF31C3F72D5C84BA5F01AF31C3F
19 Aug 23
@no1marauder saidWhat a brain-teaser!!!! You are up, Mott!
How did they "reach the Capitol"? Apparently, a riot was officially declared at 1:49 PM:
https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=youtube+of+capitol+riot&mid=72D5C84BA5F01AF31C3F72D5C84BA5F01AF31C3F