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@wajoma said
"...not resisting arrest."

You're wasting my time, Floyd resisted from go to woe.

1/ When they say show your hands, show your hands, do not keep reaching for stuff even after they ask you 8 times to show your hands.
2/ Do not resist arrest, Floyd resisted all the way, he was actually in the back of the police vehicle at one stage. Floyd claimed he couldn't go in ...[text shortened]... wallow the drug evidence. If you do, fess up to it so the police can get medical assistance to you.
Exactly.
He kept claiming he couldn't breathe until his heart gave out from the conniption fit he was having because he wouldn't shut up and stop struggling. He also had an enlarged heart and fluid in his lungs (coroner's finding) from years of drug/alcohol abuse.

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@suzianne said
You say a lot of crap that is blatantly untrue.
We'll go one by one.

How many times did they tell Floyd to show his hands.

Try to answer without lying like a George Floyd.

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@wajoma said
We'll go one by one.

How many times did they tell Floyd to show his hands.

Try to answer without lying like a George Floyd.
Did you mean, "Like a black man"?

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@suzianne said
Did you mean, "Like a black man"?
No, I mean like a compulsive liar. If you read the transcript at least 75% of what comes out of GF's mouth is a lie, you're up around that percentage too.

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@wajoma said
No, I mean like a compulsive liar. If you read the transcript at least 75% of what comes out of GF's mouth is a lie, you're up around that percentage too.
Floyd was also a large powerful man with arms like tree trunks, Chauvin did an impressive job just getting him handcuffed.
Floyd's long criminal history was violent and vicious, he was a dangerous man, why do people forget that?

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@wajoma said
You say neck, I say shoulder.
The rest of the world disagrees with you. Video evidence contradicts you. This is not even debatable. Even Fox News disagrees with you.

Regarding resisting arrest: video shows Floyd being calmly walked across a street then pinned down to the floor by his neck for almost 9 minutes, not resisting or fighting back. Whether or not there was any resistance prior to those recordings doesn't change that.

Seems the best you can do is make up a claim that contradicts people who have working eyes.

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@jj-adams said
Floyd was also a large powerful man with arms like tree trunks, Chauvin did an impressive job just getting him handcuffed.
Floyd's long criminal history was violent and vicious, he was a dangerous man, why do people forget that?
So was Derek Chauvin's history.

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@vivify said
There's video showing a cop pressing his knee into the neck of an unarmed man in handcuffs who was not resisting arrest.

What does your vid show that changes this? Note how you fail to mention specifics despite every one else doing so.
He resisted being put in the police car because he claimed he had “claustrophobia”.
But he got there in his car. Go figure.

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@vivify said
The rest of the world disagrees with you. Video evidence contradicts you. This is not even debatable. Even Fox News disagrees with you.

Regarding resisting arrest: video shows Floyd being calmly walked across a street then pinned down to the floor by his neck for almost 9 minutes, not resisting or fighting back. Whether or not there was any resistance prior to those recor ...[text shortened]... hat.

Seems the best you can do is make up a claim that contradicts people who have working eyes.
Trying to delve into vivify's logic.

Floyd was resisting arrest when he was resisting arrest, but when police employ a technique from the training manual to stop people resisting arrest Floyd was no longer resisting arrest. Conclusion: Police are trained on how to stop people that are resisting arrest from resisting arrest, and when they use that technique people can no longer resist arrest. So while people are restrained from resisting arrest they can no longer resist arrest.

Floyd was not resisting arrest when he was prevented from resisting arrest.

Check out the big brain on vivify 8^/

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@wajoma said
This is an ATY ploy.

"Thousands of other...blah, blah, frickin blah."

If they're rotting in prison then Chauvin can rot in prison, no details of the "thousands of others" just "thousands of others". Write a letter - release all unjustly imprisoned prisoners.

News for wildgrass (and ATY): No one should be unjustly in prison.

Ijit.
You want me to provide details on all the wrongfully imprisoned? For what purpose?

JJ is obsessed with a celebrity to the point that he is writing letters. That's fine, but it illustrates that there's no interest in fixing the problem.

This dude was convicted. Wasn't the first, won't be the last. Write letters to celebrities or write to those who can change laws that keep people in prison for things like this.

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@wildgrass said
You want me to provide details on all the wrongfully imprisoned? For what purpose?

JJ is obsessed with a celebrity to the point that he is writing letters. That's fine, but it illustrates that there's no interest in fixing the problem.

This dude was convicted. Wasn't the first, won't be the last. Write letters to celebrities or write to those who can change laws that keep people in prison for things like this.
Yes we all agree people shouldn't be wrongfully imprisoned, you've made an amazing point, gone straight to the root of the problem, it's incredible, your insight is incredible, you're incredible.

Thank you.

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@wajoma said
but when police employ a technique from the training manual
https://www.axios.com/2021/04/06/chauvin-trial-force-instructor-knee-neck

Minneapolis use-of-force instructor: Officers not trained to use knee on neck

Nothing you've said has any basis in fact.

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@jj-adams said
Not resisting arrest?
You obviously are watching a different video of someone else.
Floyd spent almost 9 minutes completely subdued, with no attempts to fight back.

In fact, it was actually Floyd's idea to get on the ground because he claimed he was claustrophobic. Floyd *volunteered* to get on the ground.

Did Floyd resist getting in the car? Yes. Was he resisting *while he was on the ground?* No. Was he violent at any point? No. Did Floyd attempt to flee at any point? No. Did he threaten the cops at any point? No. Was he verbally abusive toward the cops? No.

Floyd was unarmed and not a danger to anyone, telling a cop he couldn't breathe, while the officer used a deadly technique that wasn't sanctioned by the police force.

No excuse.

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@vivify said
Floyd spent almost 9 minutes completely subdued, with no attempts to fight back.

In fact, it was actually Floyd's idea to get on the ground because he claimed he was claustrophobic. Floyd *volunteered* to get on the ground.

Did Floyd resist getting in the car? Yes. Was he resisting *while he was on the ground?* No. Was he violent at any point? No. Did Floyd ...[text shortened]... while the officer used a deadly technique that wasn't sanctioned by the police force.

No excuse.
He was kicking a cop, he kicked officer Lane a number of times.

Floyd didn't volunteer anything he was supposed to remain in the rear of the police vehicle where no one can put a knee on his shoulder. He can't claim claustrophobia because when they arrived on the scene Floyd was in the drivers seat of a vehicle. One officer remarked on Floyd frothing at the mouth, BEFORE he got into the back of the police vehicle.

While he wasn't resisting arrest it was because he because he was prevented from doing so. He resisted all the way until he was prevented from doing so, that is point of preventing a person from resisting arrest. Your stupid point about not resisting when he's incapable of resisting is done and dusted. Through out the whole event he resisted continuously, until he was unable to.

Question: How many times in, at times plain English and at other times more forcefully, should a person be asked to show their hands. (All documented)?

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@wajoma said
He was kicking a cop, he kicked officer Lane a number of times.
Post the video.

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