@zahlanzi saidNobody wants communism, you say? I am pretty sure that Marauder, if he woke up in communism tomorrow, would be basking in the glow.
nobody wants a communist society dumbass
if you work harder than me in a socialist society, you get more money, a better job, your business would be more successful and all the things in a capitalist society. you can even buy yachts (reasonable, non 200 million worth kind yachts)
all that changes is there wouldn't be billionaires hoarding more money that could be spen ...[text shortened]... s or property nationalizations that you morons like to wave like a scary puppet made by a 5 year old
Please note that references to communism and socialism on this forum due to all of the different levels of thought about it must be somewhat generalized. To me, anyone who takes something that was produced by another person is a socialist. That is, he leans on the society, the other people around him, to support him. What in the hell else could it be? If it is not socialism, what is it. Set aside the concept of charity and government supporting the real needy.
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@vivify saidI know what he meant, which is why I wrote the post. Why TF would a billionaire bother? You'd all be living in huts and riding horses. They're easy to make.
Your reading comprehension is trash. He said billionaires would be taxed at 90%. Not average people, not millionaires, he said billionaires.
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@djj saidViv thus considers billionaires as targets but not millionaires? The forum has a total crap shoot when libs just spout off. Should not a guy with 999M be punished as well? Does Viv realize (he doesn’t )that billionaires are pretty smart, and will simply transfer their wealth from one entity to another within their family and never show on the books that they have $1 billion. Do the Libs truly think that the targets of Biden will just sit by and let him take his shots? This is an example of the bloating of the speech last night. It meant nothing …nothing will be done as he said it would.
I know what he meant, which is why I wrote the post. Why TF would a billionaire bother? You'd all be living in huts and riding horses. They're easy to make.
Suzianne would call them ‘in fantasy land. Can u f’n believe that that puppet stood there and opened his remark about the United States state of the union by talking about Ukraine? A blithering idiot.
I cannot wait for Trump.
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@averagejoe1 saidHe was asking Congress to do it. This is the point of the state of the union address. They complain about immigration, but there's a border security bill passed by the Senate he wants to sign.. so he asked them to debate it, change what they don't like and pass the bill so the border can be secured.
No, when a man says 'I'. am going to (do all these things,), he is telling us he is going to do things ........which he cannot do, congress has to do....he is lying.
So in the true sense of the word, he is all powerful and is dictating to corps and us and rich folks and the judges that he is going to do things.
He promised everything but the kitchen sink, thus dictating socialism. A dictator.
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He alluded to the fact that they don't want to secure the border because the wizard of oz told them not to. A chaotic border is good politics for Republicans.
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@djj saidHahaha said the MAGA moron who thinks a Trump dictatorship = freedom
@AverageJoe1
They don't need to put much effort in. The voter base is just as dumb.
@djj saidSo they'd stop trying to make money if they can only keep $100,000,000 out every billion? Is that what you're saying?
I know what he meant, which is why I wrote the post. Why TF would a billionaire bother?
You'd all be living in huts and riding horses. They're easy to make.
"Living in huts"? Why? Because 0.03% of the total population decided not to "bother" with making more money?
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@vivify saidWhere do you think you'd be if the guys that built the original infrastructure (railways, highways etc) were taxed at 90%? I doubt it would be built. Any idea how expensive that is? To spend all that money and do all that work for a fraction of return? Just how easy do you think making a billion dollars is?
So they'd stop trying to make money if they can only keep $100,000,000 out every billion? Is that what you're saying?
You'd all be living in huts and riding horses. They're easy to make.
"Living in huts"? Why? Because 0.03% of the total population decided not to "bother" with making more money?
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@averagejoe1 saidi am pretty sure you're lying and only because i am unsure if you're just too dim to understand what he is talking about
Nobody wants communism, you say? I am pretty sure that Marauder, if he woke up in communism tomorrow, would be basking in the glow.
Please note that references to communism and socialism on this forum due to all of the different levels of thought about it must be somewhat generalized. To me, anyone who takes something that was produced by another person is a socia ...[text shortened]... ot socialism, what is it. Set aside the concept of charity and government supporting the real needy.
"To me, anyone who takes something that was produced by another person is a socialist."
the workers literally produce everything in a factory and the owner literally takes (or pays less than that work is valued) what someone else produces. That's true in any capitalist system.
"That is, he leans on the society, the other people around him, to support him."
Also true in every capitalist society. A billionaire doesn't provide his own security, doesn't put out his own fires, doesn't build his own roads.
We depend on other people in our society to support us because that's the reason we have a society in the first place.
" Please note that references to communism and socialism on this forum due to all of the different levels of thought about it must be somewhat generalized"
You mean, build a strawman out of every downside of both system and use that mutant puppet into scaring dumb children because you can't argue against socialism if it's accurately depicted.
"If it is not socialism, what is it. "
I am not afraid of socialism like you weaklings are.
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@djj saidgovernments build highways
Where do you think you'd be if the guys that built the original infrastructure (railways, highways etc) were taxed at 90%? I doubt it would be built. Any idea how expensive that is? To spend all that money and do all that work for a fraction of return? Just how easy do you think making a billion dollars is?
with taxes
which they would have more of if billionaires were taxed more.
you either think there are magical billionaires who build highways or you did indeed think i meant everyone should be taxed at 90%
i even added the "i know there are morons who would misunderstand, so i mean 90% for higher brackets, after investments"
did you see "morons who would misunderstand " and stopped reading because you thought it didn't apply to you? you were wrong, dear
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@vivify saidThose 'guys' only assisted.
Those "guys" were the federal government.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_transcontinental_railroad#:~:text=The%20rail%20line%20was%20built,by%20company%2Dissued%20mortgage%20bonds.
The rail line was built by three private companies over public lands provided by extensive U.S. land grants.
Britain tried taxing people at 90%. They all left and went overseas. What a stupid idea.
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@zahlanzi saidI 'know' what you meant. Anyway who says they'd stop at billionaires? They want to know if you spend more than $600.
governments build highways
with taxes
which they would have more of if billionaires were taxed more.
you either think there are magical billionaires who build highways or you did indeed think i meant everyone should be taxed at 90%
i even added the "i know there are morons who would misunderstand, so i mean 90% for higher brackets, after investments"
did you see "m ...[text shortened]... misunderstand " and stopped reading because you thought it didn't apply to you? you were wrong, dear
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@wildgrass saidNo, he made the naive populace believe that he was simply going to do these things. And the few things he did call on congressional repubs about, like the border? He should have highlighted why they won’t. You can google it.
He was asking Congress to do it. This is the point of the state of the union address. They complain about immigration, but there's a border security bill passed by the Senate he wants to sign.. so he asked them to debate it, change what they don't like and pass the bill so the border can be secured.
He alluded to the fact that they don't want to secure the border because the wizard of oz told them not to. A chaotic border is good politics for Republicans.