Discarded soldiers

Originally posted by FMF
So you would "love to know what they promise soldiers when they join up" but you haven't just simply looked it up, although you have read letters to a Congressman about it and you have already decided that the problem means that there shouldn't have been any health care reform affecting 30,000,000 Americans until you find out what your friend's contract was like ...[text shortened]... l his case has been addressed? What exactly has prevented you from looking into the matter?

If you had noticed my original post I posted this more or less to extract information from USAparatrooperman. Unlike yourself, I don't come here knowing everything, but thanks for playing along. 😉

Originally posted by whodey
I guess my question is, what does it mean to "leave"? I mean, the soldier in question had a prexisting medical problem he did not know about until he joined up and then was basically told to leave once they realized he was damaged goods. So what you are saying is that at best he is only entitled to reduced rates through Tricare even though he had no real choice in leaving?

Keep in mind I'm no expert, but I'm about 90% sure that preexisting conditions exempts the army from having to take care of it after the fact. I do know for sure that if your issue was prior to joining it's looked at differently.

Also, you can be "kicked" out of the military even for injuries sustained in combat. But in that case you receive disability and medical care to treat the problem (if needed) for the rest of your life.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
First of all unless you retire you don't retain medical benefits after you leave, unless you obtain injury or illness related to your service. But former service members do receive reduced rates for insurance through Tricare.

I would actually love to hear from his unit's side of things, because I suspect there's more to the story. But from what ...[text shortened]... ver, Colorado; Orlando, Florida; San Juan, Puerto Rico; and St. Louis, Missouri.

Thanks for the info. The only question I have is, with the recently passed Obamacare, is the medical care equal, superior, or inferior to what servicemen will receive with these changes?

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
[b]Keep in mind I'm no expert,

Perhaps FMF can tell us. 😀

Originally posted by whodey
Thanks for the info. The only question I have is, with the recently passed Obamacare, is the medical care equal, superior, or inferior to what servicemen will receive with these changes?

Is which medical care equal, superior or inferior?

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
Keep in mind I'm no expert, but I'm about 90% sure that preexisting conditions exempts the army from having to take care of it after the fact. I do know for sure that if your issue was prior to joining it's looked at differently.

Also, you can be "kicked" out of the military even for injuries sustained in combat. But in that case you receive disability and medical care to treat the problem (if needed) for the rest of your life.

Of course, there is the matter of the surgery he had performed by a military doctor. When he consulted a private sector doctor he was told that the procedure made things worse and was not necessary. I would assume this might entitle him to something. Of course, fighting the government legally is an ominus task to say the least.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
Is which medical care equal, superior or inferior?

I would presume that in a few years all of these soldiers would be covered under Obamacare when they leave the military. Correct? So are the benefits better or worse in the military?

Originally posted by whodey
I would presume that in a few years all of these soldiers would be covered under Obamacare when they leave the military. Correct? So are the benefits better or worse in the military?

You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of "Obamacare"

There isn't a health care provider called "Obamacare."

Originally posted by whodey
I would presume that in a few years all of these soldiers would be covered under Obamacare when they leave the military. Correct? So are the benefits better or worse in the military?

i doubt VA Hospital system changes much due to obamacare.

Originally posted by whodey
Perhaps FMF can tell us.

I think you have made a little bit of a fool of yourself on this thread, whodey.

Originally posted by USArmyParatrooper
You seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of "Obamacare"

There isn't a health care provider called "Obamacare."

You know what I mean. The recent health care legislation passed should cover the soldiers who leave the service. Correct?

Originally posted by FMF
I think you have made a little bit of a fool of yourself on this thread, whodey.

Not all of us can keep up with you FMF. But the way I see it, we all have short comings. For example, I don't know everything, as where you do, however, you can't open your trap without insults or derision hurling from your lips, as where I can. Maybe we can learn from each other.

Originally posted by zeeblebot
i doubt VA Hospital system changes much due to obamacare.

I just wonder if soldier might leave the service if Obamacare turns out to be better health care.

Originally posted by whodey
Maybe we can learn from each other.

Here's a sample of your political commentary on this thread alone, so far:

whodey: It seems to me that instead of focusing on universal health coverage, Obama and company should be giving the best care they can to the men and women laying down their lives so that their pampered arses can live in the lap of luxary and continue wars that cannot be properly waged and unwinable due to political constrants. [...] Perhaps Big Brother simply hates its soldiers. If only they were illlegal aliens they might be afforded a little respect. [...] Perhaps Obama can single handidly change all this just like he will single handidly save us from the Gulf spill and illegal immigration and all the bad guys in Iraq and Afghanistan. After all, he is the messiah.

You get the derision you deserve, whodey.

Originally posted by FMF
Here's a sample of your political commentary on this thread alone, so far:

[b]whodey: It seems to me that instead of focusing on universal health coverage, Obama and company should be giving the best care they can to the men and women laying down their lives so that their pampered arses can live in the lap of luxary and continue wars that cannot be proper ...[text shortened]... aq and Afghanistan. After all, he is the messiah.

You get the derision you deserve, whodey.[/b]

The truth hurts doesn't it?