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I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. But in the midst of an invasion of Ukraine in which the US is working with allies towards peaceful solutions, it baffles me that the former US president and secretary of state are making public statements in support of the invasion. In the last day they've called Putin "genius" and "elegantly sophisticated". What? As negotiations proceed, the official twitter account of the GOP is calling our president "weak"

This is called disloyal opposition. They are doing it for political reasons, but it is anti-American and exactly what Russia/Putin want them to do. A major US political party have become puppets to a foreign government.

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@wildgrass said
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. But in the midst of an invasion of Ukraine in which the US is working with allies towards peaceful solutions, it baffles me that the former US president and secretary of state are making public statements in support of the invasion. In the last day they've called Putin "genius" and "elegantly sophisticated". What? As negotiations proceed, ...[text shortened]... ussia/Putin want them to do. A major US political party have become puppets to a foreign government.
Really amazing isn't it?
Can you imagine had Obama
and/or Hillary done the same?
And yet there are people, on this very site,
who will contend that these people are
'real Americans,' and 'true patriots.'
Worse than that, where is The GOP
leadership?.........In Florida, kissing the ring?
Why is there no denunciation, neither
here nor in Washington?

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@wildgrass said
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. But in the midst of an invasion of Ukraine in which the US is working with allies towards peaceful solutions, it baffles me that the former US president and secretary of state are making public statements in support of the invasion. In the last day they've called Putin "genius" and "elegantly sophisticated". What? As negotiations proceed, ...[text shortened]... ussia/Putin want them to do. A major US political party have become puppets to a foreign government.
Trump wants Russia's help for the next election.

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@vivify said
Trump wants Russia's help for the next election.
I opine, won't be able to run.

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@vivify said
Trump wants Russia's help for the next election.
The only other explanation for why he's continuing to call Putin a genius while he invades Ukraine is some sort of financial relationship that he wants to maintain. Russian oligarchs launder money through the US all the time.

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@wildgrass said
The only other explanation for why he's continuing to call Putin a genius while he invades Ukraine is some sort of financial relationship that he wants to maintain. Russian oligarchs launder money through the US all the time.
Naw, don't see it....He's got too many
eyes on ALL of his dealings at the moment.
He couldn't possibly be that stupid.......Could he?

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@jimm619 said
Naw, don't see it....He's got too many
eyes on ALL of his dealings at the moment.
He couldn't possibly be that stupid.......Could he?
I'm pretty sure it's legal (although it shouldn't be). Putin could launder through dozens of other organizations if Trump stopped fellating him, though, so if Putin wants to be referred to as a genius by a prominent US politician he knows who to call.

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@jimm619 said
Really amazing isn't it?
Can you imagine had Obama
and/or Hillary done the same?
And yet there are people, on this very site,
who will contend that these people are
'real Americans,' and 'true patriots.'
Worse than that, where is The GOP
leadership?.........In Florida, kissing the ring?
Why is there no denunciation, neither
here nor in Washington?
basically it seems like neither Trump and Pompeo have any substantive policy criticisms. All they're saying is "Biden is weak if we were there this wouldn't happen because we're strong" which is total BS.

Using logic is important in global crises because it's important to use logic. Eh?

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@wildgrass said
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. But in the midst of an invasion of Ukraine in which the US is working with allies towards peaceful solutions, it baffles me that the former US president and secretary of state are making public statements in support of the invasion. In the last day they've called Putin "genius" and "elegantly sophisticated". What? As negotiations proceed, ...[text shortened]... ussia/Putin want them to do. A major US political party have become puppets to a foreign government.
Reagan paid off Iran to humiliate Carter…nothing new here

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@athousandyoung said
Reagan paid off Iran to humiliate Carter…nothing new here
Link? I don't doubt you, just never heard of this.

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@wildgrass said
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. But in the midst of an invasion of Ukraine in which the US is working with allies towards peaceful solutions, it baffles me that the former US president and secretary of state are making public statements in support of the invasion. In the last day they've called Putin "genius" and "elegantly sophisticated". What? As negotiations proceed, ...[text shortened]... ussia/Putin want them to do. A major US political party have become puppets to a foreign government.
Yeah; former Presidents never ever ever rip the foreign policies of current administrations.

https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=2513387&page=1

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/30/politics/jimmy-carter-trump-peace-plan-middle-east/index.html

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@vivify said
Link? I don't doubt you, just never heard of this.
It is believed that NIXON
did the same double dealing
with North Vietnam for political
reasons at the expense of human lives.
https://www.khq.com/national/mind-boggling-lbj-official-on-nixon-sabotaging-the-vietnam-peace-talks/video_52434873-44f5-5af9-8013-73914c883215.html
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/nixon-prolonged-vietnam-war-for-political-gainand-johnson-knew-about-it-newly-unclassified-tapes-suggest-3595441/

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@wildgrass said
basically it seems like neither Trump and Pompeo have any substantive policy criticisms. All they're saying is "Biden is weak if we were there this wouldn't happen because we're strong" which is total BS.

Using logic is important in global crises because it's important to use logic. Eh?
And because it's important to be credible.

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@vivify said
Link? I don't doubt you, just never heard of this.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93Contra_affair

https://www.brown.edu/Research/Understanding_the_Iran_Contra_Affair/thehearings.php

https://www.history.com/topics/1980s/iran-contra-affair

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/congress-issues-final-report-on-iran-contra-scandal

https://www.umbc.edu/che/tahlessons/pdf/historylabs/Oliver_North_an_faculty:RS13.pdf

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@wildgrass said
basically it seems like neither Trump and Pompeo have any substantive policy criticisms. All they're saying is "Biden is weak if we were there this wouldn't happen because we're strong" which is total BS.

Using logic is important in global crises because it's important to use logic. Eh?
Most all Democrats, INCLUDING HILLARY,
lined up behind G.W. Bush for
his fraudulent, criminal invasion of IRAQ.

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