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End of US democracy, Moore V Harper

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@beowulf said
Y'all are only complaining because their are more Red states than Blue.

If it was the other way around y'all wouldn't be complaining 🙄
WRONG......as usual
We ain't bringing the suit.
This is EXACTLY what TRUMP and his
minions tried to do in the last election.
''Brad, we are only looking for 11,780 votes.''
...........Have you forgotten this infamous phone call?'
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html

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Too many perfect phone calls !!

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@sonhouse said
@jimm619
I think the ultrarightwingnuts here don't WANT us to know about this sinister SCOTUS case, I guess they want us to be totally shocked when we lose our democracy and find we are a republic, run by republicans and that will be our new normal.
Goodbye SS, Medicare, Hello zero taxes for corporations, 50% tax for ordinary citizens.
Total ban on abortion, gay marriage, ...[text shortened]... ds found to valuable for oil and minerals and they get kicked out to deserts.
THEN we get WW3......
..........Brrrrrr

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@vivify said
The article states that this case could give state legislators the power to choose the electors. Meaning Georgia can choose Republican electors to vote in their favor even if the voters choose a Democratic president.
This elector system has got to go. this sucks. I guess the founding fathers didn't trust the people to vote.

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@earl-of-trumps said
This elector system has got to go. this sucks. I guess the founding fathers didn't trust the people to vote.
What I've been saying all along: your political system has been designed, quite intentionally and quite cynically, to be a plutocracy.

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@earl-of-trumps said
This elector system has got to go. this sucks. I guess the founding fathers didn't trust the people to vote.
The elector system was designed to keep demagogues like Trump out of office. It not only failed it's job it actually helped a demagogue get elected and did the opposite of what it was intended.

So yes, this needs to go. The Electoral College needed to go long before 2016 but even more so now after proving to be an utter failure, especially now that Republicans are trying to use it to overturn elections in their favor.

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John Bolton admitted to CNN that he “helped plan coups d’etat” abroad, including Venezuela. Fulton Armstrong — a former senior US intelligence official who Bolton tried to oust — responds.

https://thegrayzone.com/2022/07/15/us-intel-officer-targeted-by-john-bolton-reacts-to-coup-plot-confession/

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@sonhouse said
https://ballotpedia.org/Moore_v._Harper
This is a major push by republicans to codify the idea a state can overturn ANY election they deem not in the favor of the ruling party, in this case republicans who are pushing for this truly disgusting POS law suit.

This lawsuit, if passed by SCOTUS would literally end democracy right then and there, allowing states to legally ov ...[text shortened]... hat is real and all you have to do is look at cases like Moore V Harper to see that as clear as day.
"This is a major push by republicans to codify the idea a state can overturn ANY election they deem not in the favor of the ruling party, "

you are one stupid nut case.

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@vivify said
The article states that this case could give state legislators the power to choose the electors. Meaning Georgia can choose Republican electors to vote in their favor even if the voters choose a Democratic president.
LOL...you poor fools. The article isnt stating that at all. Each party chooses their own electors.
What this is doing is stopping judges from changing/making election laws, that right belongs to the legislatures.

The 2020 election is invalid because of this very thing.

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@mott-the-hoople said
LOL...you poor fools. The article isnt stating that at all.
You excel at being consistently wrong:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/moore-harper-scotus-independent-state-legislature-election-power/670992/

Read the fourth paragraph.

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@vivify said
You excel at being consistently wrong:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/07/moore-harper-scotus-independent-state-legislature-election-power/670992/

Read the fourth paragraph.
the atlantic...thats your problem vivfly, you get your info from a biased leftwing website...why not just read the case itself?

https://casetext.com/case/moore-v-harper-1

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@mott-the-hoople said
the atlantic...thats your problem vivfly, you get your info from a biased leftwing website...why not just read the case itself?

https://casetext.com/case/moore-v-harper-1
From the opinion:

"But this Court has repeatedly ruled that federal courts ordinarily should not alter state election laws in the period close to an election."

That is exactly what the Atlantic was talking about: Republicans want the freedom to change elections laws even if that means gerrymandering or choosing electors, without the courts being able to stop them.

Thanks for helping me refute you.

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@vivify said
From the opinion:

"But this Court has repeatedly ruled that federal courts ordinarily should not alter state election laws in the period close to an election."

That is exactly what the Atlantic was talking about: Republicans want the freedom to change elections laws even if that means gerrymandering or choosing electors, without the courts being able to stop them.

Thanks for helping me refute you.
no vivfly, repubs are trying to STOP federal judges from MAKING election laws, as happened in the 2016 pres election.

You are too stupid to comprehend what you read.

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@vivify said
The elector system was designed to keep demagogues like Trump out of office.
You mean in, not out of.

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