Originally posted by twhiteheadA domesticated cat is quite at home on your lap being stroked,
That raises the difficult question of what 'natural behaviour' is. (what is a domestic cats 'natural behaviour'? or for that matter any domesticated animal or animals that have adapted to living alongside humans.
It also raises the question of why such restriction is unethical.
It becomes its natural behaviour.
I would say that forcing any animal into a stressful situation raises ethical questions.
Originally posted by FMFOf course it relies on ecological knowledge.
Whether or not to introduce a potentially destructive species into an ecosystem is the subject of the ethical discussion. Of course it relies on ecological knowledge. It will also rely on knowledge of the local economy, livelihoods, resource usage etc. The idea that the ethical discussion happens AFTER the species has been released into an ecosystem or that it o ...[text shortened]... er to use the species to make "hamburgers" seems to me to be unconvincing, to put it politely.
that's kind of what i am saying. as long as we agree on this, the rest is just nitpicking, which i don't mind letting go.
Originally posted by ZahlanziAs far as I am concerned, what you said was:
Of course it relies on ecological knowledge.
that's kind of what i am saying. as long as we agree on this, the rest is just nitpicking, which i don't mind letting go.
"if you resurrect enough extinct animals to make an impact and then release them into the wild, it is a matter of ecology, and still not a matter of ethics. it becomes a matter of ethics when you do as i suggested and make hamburgers out of velociraptors. we can discuss ethics then".
Stuff you said subsequent to that just became even more incoherent as far as i am concerned. The ethical discussion does not occur when someone wants to "make hamburgers out of velociraptors", the ethical discussion comes BEFORE "we release enough extinct animals to make an impact into the wild".
You said it's "still not a matter of ethics" at this point. My view is that, in saying this, you were completely wrong and that me pointing to its wrongness goes way, way beyond "nitpicking".