Even more US corruption…

@shavixmir said
Load of bollocks.
And, what’s more, this isn’t about legality, this is about ethics. And you don’t need a law to tell you when you’re integrity is compromised.

End of.

but you are cool with imprisoning conservatives. go blow you righteousness up someone elses ass

@shavixmir said
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65215407

US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has said he believed luxury trips taken with a billionaire Republican donor followed guidelines.
A ProPublica report earlier this week said Mr Thomas had accepted vacations from real estate mogul Harlan Crow nearly every year for two decades.
Supreme Court justices are required t ...[text shortened]... by a long fukking shot.

Surely, at some point, bells must have been ringing… yacht… sweet Jesus!

as usual, the truth come out

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/report-clarence-thomas-travel-habits-politics-plain-simple-expert

@mott-the-hoople said
but you are cool with imprisoning conservatives. go blow you righteousness up someone elses ass

I most certainly am not in favour of imprisoning conservatives.
That’s your paranoia setting in, pal.

You break the law, you get punished.
And I generally oppose imprisonment, except in rare circumstances when society is at extreme danger if someone isn’t imprisoned.
Prisons generally do not make people better people. And certainly not in the US, where it’s more slave labour than rehabilitation.

And locking up political opponents is a very fascist thing to do.
No sir. That is not my cup of tea at all.

@shavixmir said
I most certainly am not in favour of imprisoning conservatives.
That’s your paranoia setting in, pal.

You break the law, you get punished.
And I generally oppose imprisonment, except in rare circumstances when society is at extreme danger if someone isn’t imprisoned.
Prisons generally do not make people better people. And certainly not in the US, where it’s more slave ...[text shortened]... ing up political opponents is a very fascist thing to do.
No sir. That is not my cup of tea at all.

Does that mean you do not support locking up Trump and a fine is enough punishment?

@metal-brain said
Does that mean you do not support locking up Trump and a fine is enough punishment?

Depends on what he’s done.
The whole January 6th thing could be argued that it’s a “lock him up” scenario.

This thing in New York? No.
I’d put into a social services kind of punishement (if he’s found guilty).
40 hours a week in a food kitchen or washing homeless clothes for 6 months.
With obligatory therapy.

Not a fine.

@shavixmir said
Depends on what he’s done.
The whole January 6th thing could be argued that it’s a “lock him up” scenario.

This thing in New York? No.
I’d put into a social services kind of punishement (if he’s found guilty).
40 hours a week in a food kitchen or washing homeless clothes for 6 months.
With obligatory therapy.

Not a fine.

You are still buying the big lie that Trump called for violent insurrection. You know he called for peaceful protests and there is nothing illegal about that. He didn't tell people to go into the capitol building. Ray Epps did that.

Speaking of Ray Epps, why isn't he in prison? He told people to illegally enter a federal building. That is seditious conspiracy. Yet another example of the 2 tiered justice system here in the USA.

New York Representative Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has suggested that articles of impeachment be drawn up for Thomas. “I think this is an emergency. This is a crisis.” If so, this has been a crisis that has been smouldering for years. Impeaching the Crow-pampered justice will only be the mildest of biopsies for the highest juristocracy in the land. And just to make matters that more interesting, AOC is herself being investigated by the House Ethics Committee for receiving “impermissible gifts” from the Met Gala in 2021. Congress and the Supreme Court – easily bought and easily influenced.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/matter-personal-hospitality-buying-us-supreme-court/5815330

@metal-brain said
You are still buying the big lie that Trump called for violent insurrection. You know he called for peaceful protests and there is nothing illegal about that. He didn't tell people to go into the capitol building. Ray Epps did that.

Speaking of Ray Epps, why isn't he in prison? He told people to illegally enter a federal building. That is seditious conspiracy. Yet anot ...[text shortened]... uenced.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/matter-personal-hospitality-buying-us-supreme-court/5815330

It’s not a lie. That’s republican spin-doctoring.

However, I’m on about his claims the election was stolen. When no proof can be found, every recount proved as much, Fox news knew it was pushing this lie and every court case proved otherwise.

That is undermining democracy and destabalising a country. Very dangerous behaviour. And in many countries he would be shot over it.

I can quite imagine prison would be appropriate.

And, like I said, his shenanigans in New York deserves community service.
The punishment should suit the crime and the criminal.

@kevcvs57 said
I’m not a democrat you Russian clown I’m a life long labour voter and Biden is a Tory in my political lexicon, I still prefer democrats in the context of US politics because the republicans have morphed into a U.S version of the ‘British National Party’. Historically you couldn’t get cigarette paper between them regarding public spending and taxation for all their rhetoric

Thanks for saying that both parties spend money,... that is necessary in government, one president after another, their party notwithstanding. So that is settled. Obama, Trump and now Biden, (who is way outside of usual standards at $6T) all spend money. I was tired of explaining that on the Forum.

@shavixmir said
It’s not a lie. That’s republican spin-doctoring.

However, I’m on about his claims the election was stolen. When no proof can be found, every recount proved as much, Fox news knew it was pushing this lie and every court case proved otherwise.

That is undermining democracy and destabalising a country. Very dangerous behaviour. And in many countries he would be shot ove ...[text shortened]... gans in New York deserves community service.
The punishment should suit the crime and the criminal.

Sorry to bring up Hillary, but she destroyed govt property, funded fraudulent dossier, Russia hoax, cost us millions, had a secret server and all that goes with that, and deleted 30000 pieces of evidence on her computer. Oh, she also lied a lot.
You say here that 'prison would be appropriate for Trump."
But not here? What is the difference? Seriously.

@shavixmir said
I most certainly am not in favour of imprisoning conservatives.
That’s your paranoia setting in, pal.

You break the law, you get punished.
And I generally oppose imprisonment, except in rare circumstances when society is at extreme danger if someone isn’t imprisoned.
Prisons generally do not make people better people. And certainly not in the US, where it’s more slave ...[text shortened]... ing up political opponents is a very fascist thing to do.
No sir. That is not my cup of tea at all.

“I most certainly am not in favour of imprisoning conservatives.
That’s your paranoia setting in, pal.”

uhhh they are in prison now dumbass

@vivify said
What's more: Supreme Court Justices are the only federal judges not bound by ethics rules. Bonkers.

Of course Supreme Court Justices are bound by ethics rules.

Assuming they're members of the Bar, they can be disbarred like anyone else.

If they commit crimes, they can be prosecuted.

They can be impeached by Congress.

That it's difficult to go after them is true, of course, but there's no Supreme Court Justice exception to ethics rules.

@sh76 said
Of course Supreme Court Justices are bound by ethics rules.

Assuming they're members of the Bar, they can be disbarred like anyone else.

If they commit crimes, they can be prosecuted.

They can be impeached by Congress.

That it's difficult to go after them is true, of course, but there's no Supreme Court Justice exception to ethics rules.

Disbarment would be meaningless. Justices don't need law licenses.

@mott-the-hoople said
as usual, the truth come out

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/report-clarence-thomas-travel-habits-politics-plain-simple-expert

Ugh. "Just politics" is the worst excuse. Politics would mean that he's taking this uber wealthy "friends" opinion into consideration when making constitutionality decisions? They don't write laws. They're not elected. What the heck are they doing lobbying Clarence Thomas? Telling him what? these guys and gals are supposed to be non-partisan.

@sh76 said
Of course Supreme Court Justices are bound by ethics rules.

They are not. The American Bar Association criticizes this fact in one of their articles:

https://www.americanbar.org/advocacy/governmental_legislative_work/publications/washingtonletter/feb-23-wl/scotus-ethics-0223wl/

While Supreme Court justices must adhere to some ethical requirements set by federal statute, they are not bound by any rules that include “the full sweep of basic ethical principles” that apply to other judges, the report accompanying the resolution says.

“How do we explain to them when they find out that every lawyer in this room, every judge in this room, every lawyer and every judge across the United States of America has a code of conduct, but the United States Supreme Court does not?”

@shavixmir said
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65215407

US Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas has said he believed luxury trips taken with a billionaire Republican donor followed guidelines.
A ProPublica report earlier this week said Mr Thomas had accepted vacations from real estate mogul Harlan Crow nearly every year for two decades.
Supreme Court justices are required t ...[text shortened]... by a long fukking shot.

Surely, at some point, bells must have been ringing… yacht… sweet Jesus!

What is your assessment?

Clarence Thomas apparently went on vacation with long time friends to a place owned by that friend.

Is that a crime? Why does that not seem like a crime to me?

Let's strip out the trigger words. "luxury trips" and "billionaire Republican donor" that have no affect on how this would be judged under the law. What remains is that Thomas went on vacation with a friend.

Is the US population so susceptible to having opinions assigned to them that they're being tricked into being angry because a person went on a vacation with a friend?