20 Jun 20
@no1marauder saidExactly.
So did Bolton. He had cleared the review by the relevant person and then Trump put a political hack in charge to re-review the matter and decided to post-classify a bunch of material and thus stop publication. Everyone on earth knows that this was done not to protect "national security" but to suppress material embarrassing to the Idiot in Office:
"In their complaint t ...[text shortened]... .”"[/b]
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/constitutional-vandalism-and-bolton-book-controversy
20 Jun 20
@mott-the-hoople saidNor did Obama ever make the extraordinary claim that any conversation with the President is "classified" which seems to be the basis of the political hack's determination to post-classify large portions of the book after it had already been deemed to contain no classified information.
but they went through the proper protocols...you are lying by omission.
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@no1marauder said“ after it had already been deemed to contain no classified information. ”
Nor did Obama ever make the extraordinary claim that any conversation with the President is "classified" which seems to be the basis of the political hack's determination to post-classify large portions of the book after it had already been deemed to contain no classified information.
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that is a lie shytweasel.
@no1marauder said“ He had cleared the review by the relevant person ”
So did Bolton. He had cleared the review by the relevant person and then Trump put a political hack in charge to re-review the matter and decided to post-classify a bunch of material and thus stop publication. Everyone on earth knows that this was done not to protect "national security" but to suppress material embarrassing to the Idiot in Office:
"In their complaint t ...[text shortened]... .”"[/b]
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/constitutional-vandalism-and-bolton-book-controversy
A relavent person? The doj has to approve such things....shytweasel
@mott-the-hoople saidAs I've said before, right wingers on this site make the most ridiculous, easily disproven claims that someone else is "lying" of anyone I've ever met over the age of 4 years old.
“ after it had already been deemed to contain no classified information. ”
that is a lie shytweasel.
From the DOJ own Complain against Bolton:
"On or around April 27, 2020, Ms.Knight had completed her review and was of the judgment that manuscript draft did not contain classified information ." paragraph 26
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/7030-john-bolton-lawsuit/ce3b8c4bf5f6687fa454/optimized/full.pdf
@mott-the-hoople saidAgain from the DOJ's Complaint:
“ He had cleared the review by the relevant person ”
A relavent person? The doj has to approve such things....shytweasel
"Ellen Knight, who holds original classification authority under operative Executive Order, is the Senior Director for Records Access and Information Security Management at the NSC."
paragraph 30
https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/7030-john-bolton-lawsuit/ce3b8c4bf5f6687fa454/optimized/full.pdf
As shown in the Complaint, Bolton and Knight engaged in substantial interactions between January 30th and April 27th and he made changes in the manuscript to satisfy the requirement that no "classified" material be in it. That requirement was satisfied though far later than the 30 day period in the relevant statute contemplates.
@no1marauder saidknights review was never completed...you're lying again.
So did Bolton. He had cleared the review by the relevant person and then Trump put a political hack in charge to re-review the matter and decided to post-classify a bunch of material and thus stop publication. Everyone on earth knows that this was done not to protect "national security" but to suppress material embarrassing to the Idiot in Office:
"In their complaint t ...[text shortened]... .”"[/b]
https://www.natlawreview.com/article/constitutional-vandalism-and-bolton-book-controversy
@mott-the-hoople saidthe latest on this..
knights review was never completed...you're lying again.
"Lamberth ruled that “upon reviewing the classified materials, the Court is persuaded that Defendant Bolton likely jeopardized national security by disclosing classified information in violation of his nondisclosure agreement obligations.” "
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/judge-denies-white-house-request-to-block-bolton-book
@caesar-salad saidOne thing is certain , if you ban anything you only increase the desire for people to have it . If they banned toothpaste tomorrow , people would begin hoarding it immediately .
I wonder if even owning a copy of Bolton's book will be a criminal offense.
Let's find out, shall we?
@mott-the-hoople saidDo you actually understand what a "lie" is? It doesn't seem so since you have countless times on this Forum insisted others were "lying" when they clearly weren't (as in this case).
knights review was never completed...you're lying again.
Knight told Bolton April 27th that there was no classified material in the manuscript. The government concedes this in their own Complaint.
@no1marauder saidI say you are lying because you are!
Do you actually understand what a "lie" is? It doesn't seem so since you have countless times on this Forum insisted others were "lying" when they clearly weren't (as in this case).
Knight told Bolton April 27th that there was no classified material in the manuscript. The government concedes this in their own Complaint.
“DefendantdidnotinquirefurtherwithMs.Knightaboutthestatusofthe review or the letter he sought followingMay 7, 2020. Nor did Ms.Knight correspond further with Defendant. Instead, Defendanthad, without such authorization, delivered the book to a publisher and confirmed through counsel that it would in factbe published on June 23, 2020.
51.
Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs, who , upon review of the version of the manuscript reflecting Ms. Knight's latest guidance , was concerned that the manuscript still appearedto contain classified information,in partbecausethesameAdministrationthatthe Author served is still in office and that the manuscript described sensitive information about ongoing foreign policy issues. Mr. Ellis completed his initialreview on June 9, 2020 .
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Yet, asMs.Knight stated, theprocess was ongoing.
@mott-the-hoople saidHow can I possibly be "lying" when I merely repeated what the government said in its own filing?
I say you are lying because you are!
“DefendantdidnotinquirefurtherwithMs.Knightaboutthestatusofthe review or the letter he sought followingMay 7, 2020. Nor did Ms.Knight correspond further with Defendant. Instead, Defendanthad, without such authorization, delivered the book to a publisher and confirmed through counsel that it would in factbe published on June 23 ...[text shortened]... his initialreview on June 9, 2020 .
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Yet, asMs.Knight stated, theprocess was ongoing.
To repeat:
""On or around April 27, 2020, Ms.Knight had completed her review and was of the judgment that manuscript draft did not contain classified information ."
What does "completed" mean to you?
@mchill saidEverybody else in the world already hated Bolton.
John Bolton has few friends left in D.C. A day after excerpts from his bombshell new book emerged excoriating President Donald Trump, the former national security adviser has managed to turn everyone against him.
Republicans say he’s a disgruntled sensationalist who’s merely trying to make money off his book. And Democrats, once buoyed by Bolton’s turn against Trump, now sa ...[text shortened]... you have left. 😏
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/18/everybody-hates-john-bolton-328921