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@philokalia saidYou are a stupid man. Palestine is not their F..ing house.
So if a man comes to your house and kicks you out but allows you to live in the garage, that is justice?
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@rajk999 saidYou're angry because you know there is no way to justify some blue eyed kid from NYC getting to move into the old apartment of a displaced Palestinian family in East Jerusalem, and so you can't even begin to do it.
You are a stupid man. Palestine is not their F..ing house.
Generally speaking, every Palestinian has four grandparents who were born in Palestine.
All these Israelis have grandparents from Europe and America and other parts of the ME, who all gathered there specifically to create a new country on top of the Palestinians.
Something like half of those Jews in Israel right now are agnostics & atheists who don't even believe in the God of the Torah that "promised" them Israel... But it's theirs! 80%+ European genome be darned, they h ave a right to displace Palestinians because 2,000 years ago 10-15% of their ancestors may have been Hebrews who may have lived in Israel and not been part of the massive diaspora of Hellenized Jews...
You call me stupid out of frustration that you have to defend something so preposterous.
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Let me clarify, though:
I think the BEST scenario for post-colonial Palestine was what the Balfour Declaration initially was about: allow a semi-autonomous Jewish minority to migrate to Palestine and have equal rights and a say in the democratic Palestinian government.
From there on, they could also create policies under which Jews could migrate to Palestine over the coming decades, and keep that window open.
A few generations of them living peacefully together in Palestine would have paved the way for a powerful multi-faith nation on the coast.
That is what I want.
I believe in HUMAN RIGHTS for ALL humans regardless of their religious beliefs, not ethnostates.
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@philokalia saidWhat a load of delusional nonsense.
Let me clarify, though:
I think the BEST scenario for post-colonial Palestine was what the Balfour Declaration initially was about: allow a semi-autonomous Jewish minority to migrate to Palestine and have equal rights and a say in the democratic Palestinian government.
From there on, they could also create policies under which Jews could migrate to Palestine over t ...[text shortened]...
I believe in HUMAN RIGHTS for ALL humans regardless of their religious beliefs, not ethnostates.
Palestine never belonged to indigenous Arabs.
It was always part of an empire. ..owned by many different people.
You are never going to get what you want ... lol
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@philokalia saidI am not angry at all... my football team is kicking butts. I have no reason to be angry at all. I am baffled that some basic history of that region is escaping you, and you keep referring to that area as Palestinians land.
You're angry because you know there is no way to justify some blue eyed kid from NYC getting to move into the old apartment of a displaced Palestinian family in East Jerusalem, and so you can't even begin to do it.
Generally speaking, every Palestinian has four grandparents who were born in Palestine.
All these Israelis have grandparents from Europe and Ameri ...[text shortened]... s...[/i]
You call me stupid out of frustration that you have to defend something so preposterous.
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@rajk999 saidSo "Palestine always belonged to an Empire," but now... we get to transform it into an ethnostate for people who are all moving there because 3,000+ years ago their ancestors conquered it from another people before being displaced again a thousand years later..?"
What a load of delusional nonsense.
Palestine never belonged to indigenous Arabs.
It was always part of an empire. ..owned by many different people.
You are never going to get what you want ... lol
They've spent [i]less time in Palestine as a people than they have spent in Palestine.
... And we can just ethnically cleanse that land (because it had always been a provicne of an empire!) and turn it into these people's ethnostate?
Why?
WHy is that right?
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@rajk999 saidYou are a KC or a SF fan?
I am not angry at all... my football team is kicking butts. I have no reason to be angry at all. I am baffled that some basic history of that region is escaping you, and you keep referring to that area as Palestinians land.
@philokalia saidAre you really that stupid? Both Jews and Arabs in 1948 had to opportunity to transform their portion of the partition into whatever they wanted ...
So "Palestine always belonged to an Empire," but now... we get to transform it into an ethnostate for people who are all moving there because 3,000+ years ago their ancestors conquered it from another people before being displaced again a thousand years later..?"
They've spent [i]less time in Palestine as a people than they have spent in Palestine.
... And we ...[text shortened]... icne of an empire!) and turn it into these people's ethnostate?
Why?
WHy is that right?
- the Jews chose to develop their portion
- the Arabs chose to fight for the whole land of Palestine.
There is no ethnostate anywhere in Israel. Right now there are over 2,000,000 Palestinians living in Israel is security and comfort..
Its all about poor choices and living in hate.
Palestinians live in hate ...
They preach hate
They teach their children hate
They rejoice in hate and in death to jews
They pray to Allah to make them hate Jews.
They are a lost people ... so are all who support them.
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@rajk999 said"Right now there are over 2,000,000 Palestinians living in Israel is security and comfort.."
Are you really that stupid? Both Jews and Arabs in 1948 had to opportunity to transform their portion of the partition into whatever they wanted ...
- the Jews chose to develop their portion
- the Arabs chose to fight for the whole land of Palestine.
There is no ethnostate anywhere in Israel. Right now there are over 2,000,000 Palestinians living in Israel is security a ...[text shortened]...
They pray to Allah to make them hate Jews.
They are a lost people ... so are all who support them.
not the security and comfort of the jewish israelis though, you evil excrement stain
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@happy-chappy saidLol ... good one. Jews live in fear?
Israelis are going to be living in fear for quite some time..
Neteyaho will not be remembered for his great achievements.
Who do you think Jews are afraid of?
Who will attack Jews now after what is happening to Gaza?
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@happy-chappy saidOh .. scary. How many wars have the Arab world fought against the Jews and won?
If Egypt pulls out of the peace accord, all deals will be off.
That in itself is frightening.