@no1marauder saidYou have one sentence from one Republican that is not specific on the subset of defendants and not definite on a commitment to actually follow through. The vast majority of Jan 6th protestors were not violent and many still sit in jail for trespassing (and taking selfies) in a building whose doors were already open at the time of their individual arrival. If Trump pardoned all non-violent protestors (some who are still in jail), that would be much less than has been done for Democrat protestors.
Could you share with us a case where a Democratic politician supported a blanket pardon of rioters like a Republican one recently did?
Do you seriously think that is even close to the level of violence encouraged and enabled by Democrats?
I expect that you'd have different sympathies and maybe a different take on the significance. I would have guessed that you'd be this far uninformed of how much Democrats are allowed to get away with violence.
I'll just leave a few links here. These talk of charges dropped, and don't even begin to tell the stories of the violence that was allowed without even an arrest in the first place.
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/09/872827789/fort-worth-police-drop-rioting-charges-against-protesters-topic-of-a-broad-debat
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jun/4/prosecutors-dismiss-looting-rioting-charges-agains/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/felony-charges-dropped-against-87-breonna-taylor-protesters-arrested-kentucky-n1234259
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/harris-county-district-attorney-dismisses-charges-protesters-george-floyd/285-0279e98b-0d54-49c1-90ff-07be2fb373ac
https://www.oregonlive.com/crime/2020/08/hundreds-of-portland-protesters-will-see-their-criminal-cases-dropped-as-da-announces-plan-to-recognize-the-right-to-speak.html
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/07/22/charges-dropped-for-almost-all-protestors-arrested-during-downtown-jacksonville-demonstration/
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/dozens-protesters-arrested-by-seattle-police-may-never-be-prosecuted/TQMXRMHYXBFZ5KZVTMEDU2S4IE/
Here is Kamala Harris encouraging violence...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flashback-kamala-harris-nationwide-protests-not-going-to-stop
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-kenosha-protests-racial-equality-trump-covid-pandemic/
And here she is supporting fundraising to return violent protestors to the street (for more violence)...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/03/kamala-harris-tweeted-support-bail-fund-money-didnt-just-assist-protestors/
Here is Maxine Waters inciting violence via very irresponsible words...
Here is Chris Cuomo suggesting that protests need not be peaceful...
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/06/04/cnns_chris_cuomo_who_says_protests_are_supposed.html
13 Sep 22
@techsouth saidAlmost all your links are regarding charges being dropped against protesters, not rioters.
You have one sentence from one Republican that is not specific on the subset of defendants and not definite on a commitment to actually follow through. The vast majority of Jan 6th protestors were not violent and many still sit in jail for trespassing (and taking selfies) in a building whose doors were already open at the time of their individual arrival. If Trump pardon ...[text shortened]... ps://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/06/04/cnns_chris_cuomo_who_says_protests_are_supposed.html
I suppose you missed that nuance.
No one is sitting in jail due to trespassing charges stemming from January 6, 2021 more than 20 months later. Like most right wingers you play fast and loose with the facts including mischaracterizing statements as supporting violence when they clearly do not.
The levels of violence directed at police at the Capitol went far beyond anything seen at any BLM protest - in fact police instituted far more violence against BLM protests, including dubious practices like "kettling" than those protestors directed at police the opposite of what occurred on January 6, 2021.
13 Sep 22
@no1marauder saidTalk about missing nuance.
Almost all your links are regarding charges being dropped against protesters, not rioters.
I suppose you missed that nuance.
No one is sitting in jail due to trespassing charges stemming from January 6, 2021 more than 20 months later. Like most right wingers you play fast and loose with the facts including mischaracterizing statements as supporting violence when t ...[text shortened]... kettling" than those protestors directed at police the opposite of what occurred on January 6, 2021.
You have one sentence from one Republican that does not specify the subset considered for pardon. Yet we know for sure that looters and vandals walked free during the summer of love (and in most cases the police did not even try to find them).
And your take on the level of violence is missing the point by 180 degrees. Who benefitted from the police NOT resisting the Jan 6 protestors? It has been the most stunningly grand political win I've seen in my lifetime, (the win by Democrats) that the protestors were allowed into the capital. The Republican lost and lost big due to the breach of the capital. The police did BLM a BIG favor when they prevented them from committing more major crimes (like storming the White House as they came close to doing).
https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/19/capitol-rioter-screams-at-cops-asking-where-backup-is-denounces-siege/
People in mobs often do things worse than they'd ordinarily do. But here is a video of a MAGA supporter who "gets" what is at stake. It would have been a LOT better for Republicans and Trump if the capital police had made a serious attempt to do their job on Jan 6th.
You say the level of violence directed at police at the Capitol when far beyond any BLM protests. That is a laughable assertion. Laughable. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
13 Sep 22
@techsouth saidI guess you missed all the footage of police being beaten, windows and doors being smashed, etc. etc. Or how 140 police were injured.
Talk about missing nuance.
You have one sentence from one Republican that does not specify the subset considered for pardon. Yet we know for sure that looters and vandals walked free during the summer of love (and in most cases the police did not even try to find them).
And your take on the level of violence is missing the point by 180 degrees. Who benefitted from ...[text shortened]... pitol when far beyond any BLM protests. That is a laughable assertion. Laughable. NOT EVEN CLOSE.
I have little patience for liars, less for politically motivated liars. The vast majority of those who invaded the Capitol were part of a mob that used violence to obtain entrance and who threatened mayhem upon the People's elected representatives performing their Constitutional duties.
My assertion was correct not matter how much right wingers like you try to hide the truth.
13 Sep 22
@averagejoe1 saidredstate.com ???? 😆😆😆😆
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/09/12/fbi-turns-up-on-doorstep-of-trump-supporter-who-wasnt-even-at-capitol-n626595
The FBI, armed, showed up at her door, she had to get her calendar out to prove she was not there. Jesus, guys, these are jack-booted thugs of Joe Biden, who is Hitler 2022. People say that the Juden-like raids will continue, to focus attention on ...[text shortened]... ambit to win the upcoming elections.
Oh...one report says they were armed. Of course they were.
13 Sep 22
@averagejoe1 saidIt seems that your only defence of Trump is to not investigate him.
You know that it is creepy, it is un-American, it is government against the people.
And, get real, we are using our FBI resources in the January 6 circus hearings? Do you not care about real issues, Marauder? Why dont they raid Hunter Biden or Hillary. Yeah, we've mentioned it but why not? Trump's front door, the front doors of many other citizens, the Roger Stone ...[text shortened]... s all planned around their loans being paid off, and then have the door shut on them.; I really do.
Most people know what has happened on Jan 6th.
And they know through their gut feel that this guy is dirty.
Everything going on here is just about trying to get past the lawyers.
If DeSantis kicks Biden's butt in 2024, then we can all have a nice conversation about that.
But Trump is dirty. The smell is overwhelming.
And no ..... he is not sent by God as the 2nd Jesus !!
It is that abject stupidity of about 40 million Americans that has the rest of the world shaking their heads !!
13 Sep 22
@averagejoe1 saidYeah… not just a tad over dramatic, are you?
https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2022/09/12/fbi-turns-up-on-doorstep-of-trump-supporter-who-wasnt-even-at-capitol-n626595
The FBI, armed, showed up at her door, she had to get her calendar out to prove she was not there. Jesus, guys, these are jack-booted thugs of Joe Biden, who is Hitler 2022. People say that the Juden-like raids will continue, to focus attention on ...[text shortened]... ambit to win the upcoming elections.
Oh...one report says they were armed. Of course they were.
Snowflake.
13 Sep 22
@mghrn55 saidI think that there are over 70M of us, probably more after recent events. Have you been hearing what Biden is up to? And the TX people hearing Kamala saying that the border is secure?
It seems that your only defence of Trump is to not investigate him.
Most people know what has happened on Jan 6th.
And they know through their gut feel that this guy is dirty.
Everything going on here is just about trying to get past the lawyers.
If DeSantis kicks Biden's butt in 2024, then we can all have a nice conversation about that.
But Trump is dirty. The smell is ...[text shortened]... abject stupidity of about 40 million Americans that has the rest of the world shaking their heads !!
Oops, sorry to get off on Trump.....that is MUCH more important.
@shavixmir saidIndeed, quite the drama. It is supposed to make people like you watch it like hawks, so you will be distracted from Biden people doing what they are doing. In a nutshell, they re making people JUST like you dependent upon them. Many different things that will all come together. EG, as inflation grows, and it will, the govt will come to some sort of rescue when no one can afford anything. The socialists, of which I will be one, will own these VERY appreciative citizens, living under socialism.
Yeah… not just a tad over dramatic, are you?
Snowflake.
And that, will be it. No turning back, Imagine trying to turn Venezuela around. Y'all will win. I think I will do a thread on the Grapes of Wrath! In that, the rich land owners owned all the peach production and ....... well, wait for the thread.
13 Sep 22
@kevcvs57 saidSo a little lady answers a door in the USA and the law stands there with a gun asking questions. Boy, you got me on that one. Oh, are you suggesting that she had a gun? She may hate guns. And how would that have anything to do with a burr head standing at her door with a gun? Is this Germany in 1940? Jesus, you people.
Well when you live in a society saturated with personal weapons of course government investigators have to carry guns. I’m surprised and not surprised that a gun advocate like yourself would challenge the right to bear arms joe, are you feeling ok?
I have noticed lately that Marauder is having cognitive problems of his own.
13 Sep 22
@no1marauder said"I have little patience ....' My schoolteacher used to say that. You are not, Marauder, a teacher.
I guess you missed all the footage of police being beaten, windows and doors being smashed, etc. etc. Or how 140 police were injured.
I have little patience for liars, less for politically motivated liars. The vast majority of those who invaded the Capitol were part of a mob that used violence to obtain entrance and who threatened mayhem upon the People's elected repre ...[text shortened]... uties.
My assertion was correct not matter how much right wingers like you try to hide the truth.
And I note that you never mention the cretin who tried to MURDER Kavanaugh, which creature is OK with murdering unborn babies.
Would you compare his intent to kill (sorry folks, have to be fancy with Marauder, he has little patience......) with the intent that you are throwing all over the place.? Did you 'miss the footage' of that?
All of you liberals are walking in the dark. When the elections are over, I will be quite satisfied to just read the posts here on the forum for my entertainment, as the stock market goes straight up. I am pretty much in cash right now, awaiting the moment to jump in!
@mott-the-hoople saidThe girl who was shot on the 6th should not have been there. The girl who was taken last week while jogging BY HERSELF, that she chose voluntarily to do,,,,she should not have been there, girls know better than to float alone.
"Your ranting and raving doesn't change the fact that thousands of rioters committed crimes on January 6, 2021 "
that is a blatant lie by the resident shytweasel
Liberals always find blame in the wrong place.
13 Sep 22
@no1marauder saidShe wasn't even there. How could she have committed a crime?
Your ranting and raving doesn't change the fact that thousands of rioters committed crimes on January 6, 2021 and it perfectly proper for the FBI to follow up leads as part of this criminal investigation. That someone who was questioned by them decided to whine about it a month later on Tucker Carlson doesn't alter that reality.
Why don't the FBI investigate the CP letting protesters in?
13 Sep 22
@no1marauder saidYou forgot to mention the protesters who were welcomed in and entrapped by the CP at one of the doors. You are lying by omission. You cannot ethically blame protesters that were welcomed in.
I guess you missed all the footage of police being beaten, windows and doors being smashed, etc. etc. Or how 140 police were injured.
I have little patience for liars, less for politically motivated liars. The vast majority of those who invaded the Capitol were part of a mob that used violence to obtain entrance and who threatened mayhem upon the People's elected repre ...[text shortened]... uties.
My assertion was correct not matter how much right wingers like you try to hide the truth.
The vast majority of those who were protesting there were peaceful protesters. Stop lying!