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FMF - do you think he is a good debater?

FMF - do you think he is a good debater?

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Yes, or No, and why?

this is not a personal attack, it just about transparency.

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What makes someone a good debater?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
What makes someone a good debater?
making good points, instead of meaningless gibberish.

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Well, even though FMF spends most of his time writing elaborate (but amusing) insults, he raises more good points than most here.

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Yes. He's articulate and explains his points reasonably well.

And I say this as someone who disagrees with him on many issues.

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
What makes someone a good debater?
so if he proves himself worthy does he get the title "Master-bater" ?

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Oh yes, FMF has a unique perspective on debates here. I enjoy the
way he perceives most topics as hit issues.
I've yet to see him fold on any point and he has a way of driving right to
the crux of a debating point.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
making good points, instead of meaningless gibberish.
That counts you out then.

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Good debater but can be infuriating sometimes. I guess we all can be! If he is bugging you just tell him, he won't mind I'm sure.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Yes, or No, and why?

this is not a personal attack, it just about transparency.
Lol, he will this question as a personal insult and respond with an accusation that you hurt his feelings. If he would focus a little more on the actual debating points rather than taking everything personal and making more insults that most anyone on this board he has the potential to become an average debater, but he's not there yet.

Many people on this forum are at least decent competition.

Although I greatly disagree with many of their points, I've found kazetnagora and palynka to provide strong logical arguments, as well as others that I'm still memorizing names. wajoma is a better debater than fmf, but must less popular in these liberal forums, and yet he could probably give people more details which they crave so they can continue to disagree with him.

I give FMF currently a 4 on a scale of 1-10. If he stops taking everything persona and making insults like every other response he could easily become a 6 or 7 almost instantly.

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Originally posted by eljefejesus
wajoma is a better debater than fmf, but must less popular in these liberal forums, and yet he could probably give people more details which they crave so they can continue to disagree with him.
Its interesting that you should compare and contrast these two. In many ways they are so alike. Apart from a great ideological divide that probably sees them on opposite sides of most debates and apart from the literary styles that are their signatures, they have probably much more in common than they have differences.

Both rarely if ever will concede any merit in the opposing view, both are fairly consistent in their worldview and both tend to play the man not the ball.

FMF tends to use his highly literate ability to belittle his opponents, which while amusing and certainly inventive, tends to undermine the authority of his point of view. Given his ability to express himself one would have hoped that he would have let his arguments speak for themselves. The asides tend to detract rather than enhance his arguments anyway so I'm not sure why he goes there. If they were playful and light maybe but his need to wipe his opponent off the floor at all costs, is probably the only thing that stands in his way of being a top notch debater.

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Originally posted by generalissimo
Yes, or No, and why?

this is not a personal attack, it just about transparency.
I like eem

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Originally posted by joe beyser
I like eem
so you think he's a good debater because you "like eem"?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
making good points, instead of meaningless gibberish.
How do you judge what's a good point and what's meaningless gibberish?

Or is it up for personal interpretation?

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Originally posted by generalissimo
so you think he's a good debater because you "like eem"?
no hes mince, he tries to dance on thin ice when he would be best spreadeagled and inching along on his back. but hes a human , i think, and articulate and occasionally funny. i don't think he should be put to death.

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