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@shavixmir said
if it’s negligence, then it needs addressing.

That being said, the US does have a tendency for law-suiting everything. And that is just no good.
One may as well compare boycotting Bud Light to boycotting Kia. Govt picks and chooses?


@wildgrass said
You are taking this around in circles, Joe. The police are the nannies?

Orrr is it a police state?

This seems like a pretty standard moral hazard debate. If the car is stolen, does the car owner expect some sort of effort by the city to enforce laws against grand theft auto, and help the owner get the car back?

If not, then we're fine driving whatever. But the cit ...[text shortened]... sources that could easily be fixed at the manufacturing level, then maybe that's a simpler solution.
I miss your 'police state'reference. Police are police, so I miss that too.
Yes grand theft auto is a law which we expect to be handled by the police. Don't get your point there, either. What IS your point?
Explain to what extent the govt can fix things at the manufacturing level. We must admit they are after our light bulbs, dish washers, washing machines, stoves, gas appliances, and last week, ceiling fans....is that the new government tactic that you are speaking of? Put how to build a car in the mix now? Making me sick, Wildgrass,,,,,or is that Marauder, I really get confused. Nanny guys for sure. Brrrrrrrr


@no1marauder said
Thanks for proving my point; no actual ideas just a mindless regurgitation of right wing propaganda attacking almost completely imaginary things that you have been told "liberals" support.
Liberals , by non-action, support all the hell that those cultures are putting us through, you never once voice discontent. Or, lie if you feel ok with lying.
Have you seen what our side is screaming about in NYC today, the dam immigrant hell? Marauder, you caused that. Bring 'em in. Marauder, you caused that.


@averagejoe1 said
He is 121 years old and wonders why there is so much disruption in societal activity, things that were unheard of in his day. He was cruising the internet and saw where instead of arresting and prosecuting, and jailing what he calls a car thief (they have other monikers now), they instead sue the maker of the car because they make it easy to steal!!!
I said 'no way, ...[text shortened]... 4/chicago-sues-kia-and-hyundai-after-spate-of-car-thefts-in-the-city-and-nationwide/?sh=1a83b1603680
In his day the Germans were trying to take over the world, the US stole Hawaii from the owners and Black civil rights were ignored but he thinks society today is "disrupted" because of car theft?


@averagejoe1 said
I miss your 'police state'reference. Police are police, so I miss that too.
Yes grand theft auto is a law which we expect to be handled by the police. Don't get your point there, either. What IS your point?
Explain to what extent the govt can fix things at the manufacturing level. We must admit they are after our light bulbs, dish washers, washing machines, ...[text shortened]... me sick, Wildgrass,,,,,or is that Marauder, I really get confused. Nanny guys for sure. Brrrrrrrr
The police enforce the rules that the politicians make. So a police state and a nanny state are the same thing

If the cars have anti theft technology, they do not get stolen and the police resources and efforts are not spent on that.


@averagejoe1 said
One may as well compare boycotting Bud Light to boycotting Kia. Govt picks and chooses?
No. One is a health hazzard, the other is the extreme-right not liking an advertisement.


@wildgrass said
The police enforce the rules that the politicians make. So a police state and a nanny state are the same thing

If the cars have anti theft technology, they do not get stolen and the police resources and efforts are not spent on that.
I quite disagree, as a nanny state mothers us. A police state is exercising authority in the prot4tion of its citizens. We could have a perfect society (no police needed) and still have a Nanny state for dependents to lean on.
Definition of Nanny State:
Any nation that has the government "holding the hand" of its citizens by levying lots of taxes, having trade protection, and having many economic regulations. It is used very pejoratively by people that believe in freer markets, private institutions, and tax cuts.
Person A: I advocate for socialized health care. It will benefit us all.
Person B: Nah man, I don't want the U.S. to become a nanny state!


@AverageJoe1
Why don’t you fellows Google “two beers per week White House”, and see today’s latest dictate from the Biden administration, right on the heels of changing out our ceiling fans.

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