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@mott-the-hoople said
LOL... desperately trying to deflect from chinese slavery.

Lets change the subject to china creating a biological weapon and releasing it on the world.
Do you think that will get Trump re-elected ?

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@mott-the-hoople said
“ I'd love to see a new thread on US prison labor and ”

Each state is different. I can provide info on ADOC (Alabama). That was my career. I can tell you in AL ALL prison labor is voluntary.
Compared to the alternative ?

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@mott-the-hoople said
“ I'd love to see a new thread on US prison labor and ”

Each state is different. I can provide info on ADOC (Alabama). That was my career. I can tell you in AL ALL prison labor is voluntary.
Ya, I am taken aback by the charge, too.

There is a county facility near me. And they own a farm. The best detail an inmate can
hope to get is to work on the farm but they only take the best behaved inmates
to reduce risk of escape.

Yes, of course it is voluntary. I don't know where inmates working is forced. But that's another thread.

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@philokalia said
The Swedish clothing brand has showed that it has more integrity and courage than the NBA (stolen from a popular Twitter comment on the topic, admittedly).

[quote]Swedish clothing giant H&M said on Tuesday it was ending its relationship with a Chinese yarn producer over accusations of “forced labour” involving ethnic and religious minorities from China’s Xinjiang provi ...[text shortened]... scmp.com/news/world/europe/article/3101696/hm-cuts-ties-chinese-supplier-over-xinjiang-forced-labour
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2019/feb/15/viral-image/yes-trump-re-election-banners-are-being-made-china/

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@mott-the-hoople said
“ I'd love to see a new thread on US prison labor and ”

Each state is different. I can provide info on ADOC (Alabama). That was my career. I can tell you in AL ALL prison labor is voluntary.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_labor_in_the_United_States#Free_Alabama_Movement

Three prisoners – Melvin Ray, James Pleasant and Robert Earl Council – who led work stoppages in Alabama prisons in January 2014 as part of the Free Alabama Movement have been in solitary confinement since the start of the labor strike...

Council, one of the founders of the Free Alabama Movement, said: "We will not work for free anymore. All the work in prisons, from cleaning to cutting grass to working in the kitchen, is done by inmate labor. [Almost no prisoner] in Alabama is paid...

Prisons, at the same time, charge us a variety of fees, such as for our identification cards or wrist bracelets, and [impose] numerous fines, especially for possession of contraband. They charge us high phone and commissary prices. Prisons each year are taking larger and larger sums of money from the inmates and their families. The state gets from us millions of dollars in free labor and then imposes fees and fines. You have [prisoners] that work in kitchens 12 to 15 hours a day and have done this for years and have never been paid."

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@AThousandYoung

This is good, ATY. and thanks for that.

Here's how I look at it. As long as the inmates are not forced to work, than that is
Ok. I have no idea how that is handled where I live but I would be happy to see
that working inmates get a small stipend deposited into their jail bank account for
labor performed.

One big item to consider, ATY, - the last I checked, each inmate costs about $50K/year
to support. They do get food, (3 meals), warm rooms, a bed, hot showers etc.

Why should the inmates get this free? Just something to mull over.

Also, I had a prison inmate advocate tell me **to my face**, that every Fall when the temperature
gets cold, the homeless will commit crimes **just to get thrown in jail**. Spring comes, and they get out.

Sad.

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@mott-the-hoople said
“ I'd love to see a new thread on US prison labor and ”

Each state is different. I can provide info on ADOC (Alabama). That was my career. I can tell you in AL ALL prison labor is voluntary.
Awesome.

So, at least in Alabama, the labor is not FORCED, already showing a very significant difference between what's happening in China today and Alabama.

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