Originally posted by RedmikeThanks, that sounds familiar to me. Much as we liked the people we knew, we always wondered how these relatively small groups expected to change anything when they seemed to constantly fight with each other.
Sometimes it can be like arguements about the number of angels on a pinhead.
Trokskyist parties are very splinter-prone. They often consider their particular faction the only true voice and all others to be heretics. I'm not sure of the specifics, but I think there are currently at least a dozen parties in the US calling themselves Trotskyist. In a People ...[text shortened]... into parties. These alliances bring in people who were never in any faction, such as myself.
Originally posted by AmauroteYou are clearly one of the sodomite/catamite brigade, known in the Army as 'Shirt-lifters' (Officer's Mess) or 'Bum-boys' (Other Rank's Canteen).
Rentboy. He was goosed by a Bennite in the Gorbals in '76 and he's never really recovered.
As such you are simply disgusting.
Originally posted by NargagunaIt takes one to know one, Mr Goonhead.
Better than being a Bum-boy like you.
Also, seriously now - learn to punctuate, your infantile misuse of apostrophes is becoming quite wearing. I don't mind having to stoop to your level occasionally, but if you want my valuable time you're really going to have to earn it.
Originally posted by JokerFiveHave you ever taken a history course? Stalin did a lot! He killed more of his own people than anyone else in history. Mao-Tse-Tsung won a civil war (and screwed a collosal percentage of his population during the cultural revolution), Lenin also won with the Boulsheviks... The only one who sat around there was Marx, and one sometimes wishes the rest had done so too.
Redmike ain't got no job, communists like to sit around and theorize about the imaginary utopia they claim they could create. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao-Tse-Tung, Pol Pot.... really showed them the way, didn't they?
Originally posted by JokerFiveAnd that leads you to conclude that every communist on the planet is unemployed?
Redmike ain't got no job, communists like to sit around and theorize about the imaginary utopia they claim they could create. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao-Tse-Tung, Pol Pot.... really showed them the way, didn't they?
That's Nargajuna-level reasoning, for sure.
communists like to sit around and theorize about the imaginary utopia they claim they could createThere's more than a grain of truth in this I'm afraid - far too much far-left politics is inward looking, dominated by sterile debates about theory and programme - ideas which, the more heatedly they are argued over, the less chance they often really have of coming to fruition.
What's made the SWP attractive to so many on the left over the years is that it's always set its face firmly against this kind of politics, taking the view that what matters is the ability to get out and connect with a much wider audience. OK, the SWP may not always have had the success in doing this that it would like, but at least it tries. Socialist Worker is aimed at the man or woman in the street : it doesn't carry debates with other Trotskyist groups. In recent years the SWP's efforts have been instrumental in creating and building campaigns (like the anti war campaign) that have mobilised millions, and the most serious leftist electoral challenge for decades.
Originally posted by NargagunaI bet your penile circumference increased by a full millimetre while you wrote that, guano-for-brains.
I never use that euphemism for sodomites and catamites. Only those who suffer from, or sympathise with, that disease do so.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8772014&dopt=Citation
Originally posted by AmauroteYou poor sodomite. I can well imagine what you spend your 'valuable time' doing.
I bet your penile circumference increased by a full millimetre while you wrote that, guano-for-brains.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=8772014&dopt=Citation