23 Oct 19
@joe-beyser saidWell I just saw in the polls that support for Biden has increased.
@whodey Maybe the Ruskies are all for touchy uncle Joe.
Imagine, you have just been revealed as a corrupt politician gaming the system for your children and your support goes up. Must be the Russians influencing voters again.
23 Oct 19
@mott-the-hoople saidAt least I'm not ignorant.
If I didnt view you as trash I just might do that!
@metal-brain saidThis “Chalupa” sorry which foreign government does he represent.
But Hillary had the DNC hire Chalupa to dig up dirt on Manafort/Trump. That is a fact. She was election meddling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6pVI8wo_mE
I’m sure everyone tries to did up dirt on their political opponents, I think it becomes an issue when you collude with a foreign government in order to do it.
24 Oct 19
@kevcvs57 saidChalupa is a she.
This “Chalupa” sorry which foreign government does he represent.
I’m sure everyone tries to did up dirt on their political opponents, I think it becomes an issue when you collude with a foreign government in order to do it.
"I’m sure everyone tries to did up dirt on their political opponents"
Right, nothing scandalous about that. Everybody tries bribing foreign governments too. Now you have to prove doing both at the same time is a crime which nobody can do. There is no law saying that, therefore Trump did nothing illegal.
24 Oct 19
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@metal-brain saidAND she's a Ukranian-American. You conveniently left that out.
Chalupa is a she.
"I’m sure everyone tries to did up dirt on their political opponents"
Right, nothing scandalous about that. Everybody tries bribing foreign governments too. Now you have to prove doing both at the same time is a crime which nobody can do. There is no law saying that, therefore Trump did nothing illegal.
And yes, bribing a foreign government with quid-pro-quo at the same time IS illegal.
I'll wait while you read the US Constitution for the first time.
24 Oct 19
@suzianne saidI didn't leave out anything. If you read any of the articles I posted you would have known that a long time ago.
AND she's a Ukranian-American. You conveniently left that out.
And yes, bribing a foreign government with quid-pro-quo at the same time IS illegal.
I'll wait while you read the US Constitution for the first time.
"And yes, bribing a foreign government with quid-pro-quo at the same time IS illegal."
It is common practice though. Biden admitted to doing it (and implied Obama supported the bribing) to get Shokin fired when he bragged about it at the CFR. GWB did it on a regular basis to bribe UN votes for war authorization. France vetoed it, but the rigging still took place and it is a fact. Here is something to read if you ever get motivated to learn anything.
https://ips-dc.org/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/COERCED.pdf
Do you support charging Bush with a crime?
24 Oct 19
@metal-brain saidIdeally, justice should apply to all.
In other words you want selective enforcement of the law. Let everyone get way with it but the guy you happen to dislike. That is your position, but the law is supposed to be proportionate, or at least appear to be.
You don't seem to care about fairness, just vengeance for one guy who did less crimes than Bush.
But politics will always come into play.
This president is a danger to the political stability of the world.
It would be harder to do something about it if he was squeaky clean.
And he is far from that (sorry to burst your bubble of delusion).
The politics will play out.
And this president will incite violence in the streets if he is removed from office, either by impeachment or the 2020 election.
He’s discredited the FBI, told the entire world that he believes Putin over his own intelligence agencies and now is trying to stick a knife in your country’s constitution.
But hey !!
He’s leading you to the promised land.
Stick up for him.
As to your attempt to compare him favourably to Bush, please put a lid on that hypocrisy.
GOP tried to nail Clinton for extra-marital sex and the perjury trap that followed.
@mghrn55 said"This president is a danger to the political stability of the world."
Ideally, justice should apply to all.
But politics will always come into play.
This president is a danger to the political stability of the world.
It would be harder to do something about it if he was squeaky clean.
And he is far from that (sorry to burst your bubble of delusion).
The politics will play out.
And this president will incite violence in the streets if he i ...[text shortened]... at hypocrisy.
GOP tried to nail Clinton for extra-marital sex and the perjury trap that followed.
Relative to what? Trump has not started a war yet. How can you say he has created instability in the world when he has killed less people than any president in recent history? By that criteria shouldn't you condemn GW Bush for all the people he has killed?
25 Oct 19
@metal-brain saidAt this moment in time (which is what should concern us the most right now) he is far from the clear and present danger that is Donald Trump.
I didn't leave out anything. If you read any of the articles I posted you would have known that a long time ago.
"And yes, bribing a foreign government with quid-pro-quo at the same time IS illegal."
It is common practice though. Biden admitted to doing it (and implied Obama supported the bribing) to get Shokin fired when he bragged about it at the CFR. GWB did it o ...[text shortened]... ps://ips-dc.org/wp-content/uploads/2003/02/COERCED.pdf
Do you support charging Bush with a crime?
Your "whataboutism" notwithstanding.
25 Oct 19
@suzianne saidIn other words, you want the law to be selectively enforced. You need to talk at least 20 republicans in the Senate into accepting that double standard. Good luck.
At this moment in time (which is what should concern us the most right now) he is far from the clear and present danger that is Donald Trump.
Your "whataboutism" notwithstanding.