Originally posted by whodey1. Tony Blair
Here is your chance. List for us who you view to be the most lame and pathetic politican figures of our time......scratch that, of all time!!
For me, I think Neville Chamberlain has to top the list who was the author of appeasement to the Nazi war machine.
Of course, being a conservative I have to also point to progressive conservatives...as if that is ...[text shortened]... owever, he also got burned by the "W" legacy as the left successfully drug him down with it.
2. Ronald and Nancy Reagan (for the war on drugs)
3. Lula
4. Fernando Lugo
5. Gordon brown
Originally posted by generalissimoI don't know about Brown. A month ago, I'd have agreed, but if he wins the election..! It's not likely, but it's more likely than at any time for months and months, and no longer crazy talk. If he pulls it off and wins an election while this unpopular I just won't be able to consider him pathetic.
1. Tony Blair
2. Ronald and Nancy Reagan (for the war on drugs)
3. Lula
4. Fernando Lugo
5. Gordon brown
Originally posted by whodeythe liberals were going to go after whoever beat gore and kerry.
Here is your chance. List for us who you view to be the most lame and pathetic politican figures of our time......scratch that, of all time!!
For me, I think Neville Chamberlain has to top the list who was the author of appeasement to the Nazi war machine.
Of course, being a conservative I have to also point to progressive conservatives...as if that is ...[text shortened]... owever, he also got burned by the "W" legacy as the left successfully drug him down with it.
look how they're going after Palin! would it be different if she was a moderate?
Originally posted by DrKFis it just that they're getting close to the wire and the electorate's thinking, nah, we don't really want to elect a Tory?
I don't know about Brown. A month ago, I'd have agreed, but if he wins the election..! It's not likely, but it's more likely than at any time for months and months, and no longer crazy talk. If he pulls it off and wins an election while this unpopular I just won't be able to consider him pathetic.
Originally posted by DrKFIf he pulls it off and wins an election while this unpopular I just won't be able to consider him pathetic.
I don't know about Brown. A month ago, I'd have agreed, but if he wins the election..! It's not likely, but it's more likely than at any time for months and months, and no longer crazy talk. If he pulls it off and wins an election while this unpopular I just won't be able to consider him pathetic.
That would say more about the british public than it would about Brown.
Originally posted by zeeblebotI think 'cultural memory' is playing a part - one of the fundamental projects under Cameron has been 'detoxifying the brand'. I think, as the election looms, the limits of that detoxification are being well played by Labour. Their own brand is toxic like nuclear waste, but they can still (!) tap in to that 'cultural memory'. The other strand of attack - which has some merit - is that the detoxification project hasn't been sufficiently matched with concentration on policy, and the attendant fear is that, if the new look doesn't mask the old Tories, it masks incoherent and ill-thought out policies designed to sound good rather than mean anything. Again, much the same is increasingly being said about Labour, but the attack is sticking.
is it just that they're getting close to the wire and the electorate's thinking, nah, we don't [b]really want to elect a Tory?[/b]
It's going to be cynical, maybe even a little nihilistic, this election.
Originally posted by generalissimoI served in the USCG in the 80's. Dispite the large amout of coke siezed by the USCG, it was at best spitting in the wind as the drug runners had more personel on the job, faster boats and all. Their boats were stolen, the crews were just deported back home and 10 shipments passed by for about every drug bust.
1. Tony Blair
2. Ronald and Nancy Reagan (for the war on drugs)
3. Lula
4. Fernando Lugo
5. Gordon brown