Honest question about Covid

@shavixmir said
There are. They just tend to post less.

But shouldn't there be a wasteland of dead conservatives, given their general disregard for Covid mandates, masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc?

@vivify said
But shouldn't there be a wasteland of dead conservatives, given their general disregard for Covid mandates, masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc?

Another reason the Republican Party is losing support.

@divegeester said
1) data showing more Repubs being anti vax
2) data that numbers of repubs dying are less than or equal to, numbers of dems dying

1) A new KFF COVID-19 Vaccine Monitor analysis finds that Republicans and Republican leaning independents, who represent 41% of adults, now make up 60% of the adult unvaccinated population across the country and that political partisanship is a stronger predictor of whether someone is vaccinated than any demographic factor measured.

Controlling for other factors, a Republican is 26 percentage points more likely than a Democrat to remain unvaccinated.

https://www.kff.org/coronavirus-covid-19/press-release/unvaccinated-adults-are-now-more-than-three-times-as-likely-to-lean-republican-than-democratic/

@vivify said
Since Conservatives make up the vast of majority anti-vax Covid deniers...why aren't there more dead conservatives?

There are.

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1059828993

@vivify said
But shouldn't there be a wasteland of dead conservatives, given their general disregard for Covid mandates, masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc?

They are also protected somewhat by their low population density.

@vivify said
But shouldn't there be a wasteland of dead conservatives, given their general disregard for Covid mandates, masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc?

viv,

did you ever see stories about dems like AOC that are often seen without masks? happens a lot.
or a nancy pelosi illegally going to a hair salon? please.

and let's not forget just how ineffective vaxes are anyway. just 2 weeks ago I read that
70% of covid cases in england were people that were vaxxed. HUH?

@eladar said
Look at the numbers and you will see the death rate by age group is not very high, especially for those younger than 65.

The younger the person, the lower the risk of death.

By completely missing my point, you're actually making it !!
Did that sound right ??
Bah !! We'll go with it. 🤣🤣

@vivify said
But shouldn't there be a wasteland of dead conservatives, given their general disregard for Covid mandates, masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc?

There is.
You do know that virusses aren’t known for political viewpoints?

@mghrn55 said
By completely missing my point, you're actually making it !!
Did that sound right ??
Bah !! We'll go with it. 🤣🤣

You are ignoring fact and trying to blame politics for truth and ignoring the truth.

Typical for people of your political bent.

@shavixmir said
There is.
You do know that virusses aren’t known for political viewpoints?

There is? I have not noticed it. Perhaps you do not know what you are talking about and simply posting your opinion instead of fact.

@vivify said
Since Conservatives make up the vast of majority anti-vax Covid deniers...why aren't there more dead conservatives?

There probably are (marginally), but since COVID (especially Omicron) doesn't generally kill healthy people, any difference will be all but unnoticeable unless one actively seeks to drill down into the numbers.

@shavixmir said
There is.
You do know that virusses aren’t known for political viewpoints?

Regardless of politics, if one group of people frequently do the exact opposite of what medical experts tell them during a pandemic, you could expect that group to be more affected, right?

Given the highly contagious nature of Covid, you'd a expect a huge difference in deaths between groups who follow medical experts and groups who frequently disregard them. But then again, I doubt hospitals are asking for political affiliation when someone is rushed to the hospital.

@vivify said
But shouldn't there be a wasteland of dead conservatives, given their general disregard for Covid mandates, masks, vaccines, lockdowns, etc?

Vaccines are great. Mask mandates are essentially useless (looks at mask-mandated New York City's nation-leading Omicron surge). Lockdowns aren't happening anywhere (unless you call school closures lockdowns, in which case they're happening in a handful of places, but also have almost no effect on COVID spread).

Vaccines certainly help, but given that 99.7% of people who get COVID are going to survive with or without a vaccine, the difference is hard to really notice.

Of course, vaccines are not just about surviving. Maybe without the vaccine you'd be sick for a week and have chills, fever, coughing and shortness of breath and with the vaccine you'll have a 3-day cold. That difference is hard to quantify, but it's a good enough reason for me to vaccinate.

@earl-of-trumps said
viv,

did you ever see stories about dems like AOC that are often seen without masks? happens a lot.
or a nancy pelosi illegally going to a hair salon? please.

and let's not forget just how ineffective vaxes are anyway. just 2 weeks ago I read that
70% of covid cases in england were people that were vaxxed. HUH?

Here we go again, getting covid is not the issue, taking up an icu bed and dying is the issue. Try looking at the disparity amongst the vaccinated and the unvaccinated for outcomes of infection rather than just being infected.

@kevcvs57 said
Here we go again, getting covid is not the issue, taking up an icu bed and dying is the issue. Try looking at the disparity amongst the vaccinated and the unvaccinated for outcomes of infection rather than just being infected.

What percentage of people under 65 who get covid end up in ICU beds and dying even if unvaxxed?