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How to Remember the Alamo

How to Remember the Alamo

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AThousandYoung
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@dood111 said
If not for the men at the Alamo, Texas would still be part of Mexico and look just like Mexico..
Uhhmmmboy wouldn't tht be grand?
The men at the Alamo were irrelevant. They lost and Texas was unable to relieve or avenge them. Mexican armies continued to enter Texas at will until the USA got involved and invaded Mexico City.

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The problem with the USA annexing Mexico is that it would have added a LOT of new voters who would have radically changed the political balance of the country.

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@rajk999 said
Texas would be a mess. Lots of cheap Coronas though.

Here is something that will piss off Duchess64. If Mexico had not fought but instead summited to the Spanish, and eventually came under US rule ie became one the States. They would have become a very prosperous state. Imagine if Central America did the same, what a prosperous region that would be.
If Latin America submitted to the Spanish there is a good chance the USA would have lost the Spanish American and Mexican American Wars. Andrew Jackson might have been kicked out of Florida too.

Look at the map - the USA at the time was the area northeast of Louisiana:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d8/Spanish_Empire_Anachronous_en.svg

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They allowed the Mexicans to vote in the other States they took.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mexican_Americans

On July 4, 1848, the United States and Mexico ratified the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which formally ended the war.[47] Under the conditions of defeat, Mexico also ceded more 525,000 square miles of territory.[48] The Treaty guaranteed full citizenship for all former-Mexican citizens who requested it, as well as formal U.S. citizenship to all who remained in the U.S. territories for one full year after the signing of the treaty.[49]

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"We've Been Telling the Alamo Story Wrong for Nearly 200 Years. Now It's Time to Correct the Record"


I predict if all the facts were laid bare, over half of the text in US history books would have to be rewritten.

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I don’t remember the Alamo.
Must be some banana republic’s internal bickering, out in one of the colonies.
Too many to keep track off throughout history.

Now, the 30 years war… that I remember!

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I doubt they could have avoided it. That's why they didn't take more land than they did

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_of_Mexico_Movement

After the US Army took Mexico City, there was renewed enthusiasm for incorporating all of Mexico. The idea was fiercely opposed in the US Congress, especially by a US senator from South Carolina, John C. Calhoun, who strongly objected to incorporating territory with a dense nonwhite population.

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