IF China Balloon Is Really For Weather

@metal-brain said
You want every weather balloon in the jet stream to be shot down?
They are at 60,000 feet. That is 11.37 miles.

Play a game of whack a mole first, then get back to me.

I tell you what, why don't you put your cell phone in a school shower so the camera portion is facing the shower, tell the school, it's okay it is a phone, and see what that gets you.

@metal-brain said
No, I called you a liar before he posted that. You refused to post your source twice in a row. no1 did what you failed to do.

A man would say "OK I found out what you said was correct, I apologize for calling you a liar."
But you just aren't up to it.

@jj-adams said
Again, you called me a liar after being told my statement was true.
Are you a teenager?
Because only someone very young would have such an immature, baby-like mindset.
It's like if I said the sun rises in the East but didn't provide a reference, you'd call me a liar over it, even after finding out I was correct.
What a doosh.
A man would say "OK I found out what you said was correct, I apologize for calling you a liar."
But you just aren't up to it.

No, before. Not after.
It would not have come to that if it had been after.
Now you really are lying. I already corrected you so I know you know better.

@metal-brain said
No, before. Not after.
It would not have come to that if it had been after.
Now you really are lying. I already corrected you so I know you know better.

So what prevented you from saying you were sorry?

@jj-adams said
So what prevented you from saying you were sorry?

Your failure to provide your source of information. You never proved yourself right. Someone else did that work for you. Not that it proves it was a spy balloon. All that did was prove it was possible, but it was admitted that spy satellites would have been just as effective. That means that while it is possible it is unlikely.

It is still a conspiracy theory. No evidence that it was a spy satellite.

@metal-brain said
Your failure to provide your source of information. You never proved yourself right. Someone else did that work for you. Not that it proves it was a spy balloon. All that did was prove it was possible, but it was admitted that spy satellites would have been just as effective. That means that while it is possible it is unlikely.

It is still a conspiracy theory. No evidence that it was a spy satellite.

So what, any device can do multiple things, extra features on your phone make it more than just a phone. Even if it did some scanning of the atmosphere for weather purposes that doesn't mean it isn't doing anything else. Sending equipment into any country's sovereign space can be considered aggression, and if there are multiple purposes or not the fact there could be is enough to take as seriously as possible.

@metal-brain said
Your failure to provide your source of information. You never proved yourself right. Someone else did that work for you. Not that it proves it was a spy balloon. All that did was prove it was possible, but it was admitted that spy satellites would have been just as effective. That means that while it is possible it is unlikely.

It is still a conspiracy theory. No evidence that it was a spy satellite.

One of the selling points about using drones for surveillance I have heard was that they were not using them to gather specific information on individuals in the area the drones fly in. Technically that is true, but the only thing they need to gather is whose ID is there, that information can be uploaded to any database where everything else is kept, and there, not in the drone itself, the record of who was where when is used to gather specific information on individuals.

@metal-brain said
No, I said the U2 was capable at flying up to 70,000 feet. That does not mean that is the altitude they do their spying at. They probably go over a country at high altitude and drop down for a closer look hoping to go undetected by minimizing low altitude peeking. Isn't that how Francis Gary Powers got busted spying on the USSR?

That is the altitude they did their spying at because it was supposed to be too high to shoot down. Powers got "busted" because the Soviets had an anti air missile that could go to 70,000 feet which we didn't know about.

@kellyjay said
So what, any device can do multiple things, extra features on your phone make it more than just a phone. Even if it did some scanning of the atmosphere for weather purposes that doesn't mean it isn't doing anything else. Sending equipment into any country's sovereign space can be considered aggression, and if there are multiple purposes or not the fact there could be is enough to take as seriously as possible.

Every weather balloon must be shot down?

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/breaking-u-military-shoots-down-200700959.html

This one was smaller. It could not possibly have been big enough to carry enough to equal what a satellite could in spying capability.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/chinese-spy-balloon-story-manufactured-crisis-alternative-reading

The Pentagon itself said that “the payload wouldn’t offer much in the way of surveillance that China couldn’t collect through spy satellites” and that “the balloon posed no serious physical or intelligence threat”.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/02/03/how-spy-balloons-work/