07 Jun 06
Originally posted by Sicilian SmaugMy point exactly. I'm just saying that we imagine what the universe is, and we imagine the universe to be infinite. Therefore everytime we imagine what would be in the universe, we could come up with infinite things. Hence, imagination is also infinite.
We live in the universe though. When I think of the "Universe", I think of the billions of billions of galaxys that are part of the universe, that we can see with telescpoes. And the billions of stars and solar systems that make each galaxy. We humans are just one life form living in a tiny corner of just one galaxy. Your translation of the word "Universe" is obviously alot different from mine.
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by UmbrageOfSnowI think you missed the humour. I know there are different classes of infinity. But our concept of infinity (in the mathematical sense) has been created by the human mind. We have imagined it.
And I think I know more about math than you. The only difference is that I'm right.
08 Jun 06
Originally posted by aging blitzerAparently you have a different definition of 'imagined' than many people. Webster's defines 'imagine' as :
I think you missed the humour. I know there are different classes of infinity. But our concept of infinity (in the mathematical sense) has been created by the human mind. We have imagined it.
1: to form a mental image of something not present
2: archaic : to plan; scheme
3: suppose; guess "I imagine it will rain
4: to form a notion of without sufficient basis
Normally when you say something was imagined, you don't mean just that someone thought of it, it has a strong implication of being untrue or unsound. The concept of infinity is quite widely accepted in modern mathematics and was never created simply by daydreaming, but by logic. You can say all of math exists only in the human mind, but this is no more true than saying that the world and everything else only exist in your mind. You can make that philisophical arguement if you want, but it seems a bit silly to me. If we accept that the world is real, math is just as real.