19 Oct 13
Perceived fairness does play a role in tax evasion, obvisouly, but I don't see any link between that and the specifics of the tax code. In countries like Italy and Greece tax evasion is a much bigger problem than here in Finland, even though the taxes they do pay are both less progressive and smaller. People do have problems paying taxes if they think it's going to be wasted by a bunch of corrupt crooks anyway.
19 Oct 13
Originally posted by King TigerNo, not necessarily. Although he almost certainly is receiving a definite preference, I dispute that he deserves to do so. Government is not a restaurant.
Sure the analogy breaks down (all do). But if he pays more than others according to your suggestion he should receive definite preference from those services he's paying more for through taxation then.
Some services are taxed based on usage such as road taxes, property taxes etc. But I don't believe education should be taxed based on usage. I believe education is a human right and that everyone should receive it equally regardless of how much tax they put in. The same goes for security. I don't think the army should preferentially protect rich areas over poor areas.
19 Oct 13
Originally posted by normbenignWell, of course there are some politicians who buy votes by offering tax cuts, instead. But you seem to like that form of bribery.
"given that the state's financial obligations continue to increase"
Why is this a given? Financial obligations increase because politicians buy votes, by promising benefits.
19 Oct 13
Originally posted by WajomaWe all work for the right to borrow our wages regardless of our tax bracket. At least having higher taxes increases social services and decreases the tension and inequality that leads to a violent underbelly within any society.
They bribe you with your own money? That's good one T, a nice example of screwy lefty logic.
19 Oct 13
Originally posted by kmax87Took the first sentence to www.babelfish.com/, could find no coherent translation.
We all work for the right to borrow our wages regardless of our tax bracket. At least having higher taxes increases social services and decreases the tension and inequality that leads to a violent underbelly within any society.
19 Oct 13
Originally posted by kmax87Seems odd to me, you think you have to borrow your own wages?
We all work for the right to borrow our wages regardless of our tax bracket. At least having higher taxes increases social services and decreases the tension and inequality that leads to a violent underbelly within any society.
I think you need to change your way of thinking, you should work for way
to keep what is yours, and give away that which you want to give away,
and not lose what someone else wants to take.
Kelly
19 Oct 13
Originally posted by KellyJayThat proposal defeats a key purpose of taxation; which is to rectify the injustices of the free market by redistributing some of the surplus wealth from its beneficiaries to the poor and needy.
Hey increase everyone's taxes! Make everyone pay into the government
so many are getting freebies out of. That way the freebies will not be
freebies any more, but part of something they themselves put into.
Kelly
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by TeinosukeSomebody being successful is not an injustice wreaked upon the unsuccessful. Try again.
That proposal defeats a key purpose of taxation; which is to rectify the injustices of the free market by redistributing some of the surplus wealth from its beneficiaries to the poor and needy.
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by WajomaWhen you borrow money interest is due. Think of taxation and inflation as interest on the money you've earned and you will soon see that you work for the right to borrow your wages.
Took the first sentence to www.babelfish.com/, could find no coherent translation.
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by TeinosukeTaxes should be used to do that which we cannot do for ourselves, our
That proposal defeats a key purpose of taxation; which is to rectify the injustices of the free market by redistributing some of the surplus wealth from its beneficiaries to the poor and needy.
own income is in a word, ours. Now the poor and needy should be helped
and we should be helping them, but it should be our choice to help. Taking
money away from who worked for it, to give to one who didn't is more like
robbery than charity.
Kelly
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by TeinosukeSo when I worked two jobs while going to school to put myself into a place
Depends on how that success was achieved, doesn't it?
that I can earn wealth means I do not get to keep what I now earn, instead
through the force of taxes have to have my income taken from me so that
someone who didn't do anything to help themselves gets a free ride?
Why not demand from everyone who earns a living put in the same
percentage of their income to help those that do not have an income?
If everyone puts into the pot then no one can say anyone is getting
freebees, because everyone puts in the same amount into the COMMON
pot of taxes.
If you earn a dollar then put in a dime, if you make a 10K you put in 1K
that would be FAIR.
Kelly
20 Oct 13
Originally posted by kmax87That is a big pile of BS, I work for my living. I don't have to work for what is
When you borrow money interest is due. Think of taxation and inflation as interest on the money you've earned and you will soon see that you work for the right to borrow your wages.
already mine.
Kelly