30 Apr 04
Originally posted by shrewRest easy...they'll be dealt with according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which in some cases is more harsh than civil jurisdiction. They (Guards) should, and will, get the punishment they deserve...even taliban scum shouldn't be humiliated to the point of ridiculousness...
If Saddam had WMD'S America and its "allies" would never had invaded! It's because he did'nt have WMD'S or at least any that were a real threat to the West that we were able to invade. It will be interesting to see if the American troops "suspended for mist ...[text shortened]... risoners will face any kind of trial or if it will be dealt with in secret by the American Army?
30 Apr 04
The actions of these men is going to reflect on every member of the Allied forces in Iraq which is obviously unjust.Those images will be around for a long time and it is important not just to deal with these soldiers in the proper way but to do it in full view of the rest of the world.
30 Apr 04
Originally posted by chancremechanicMinor issue, but the prisoners weren't taleban. That was Afganistan - this is Iraq.
Rest easy...they'll be dealt with according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which in some cases is more harsh than civil jurisdiction. They (Guards) should, and will, get the punishment they deserve...even taliban scum shouldn't be humiliated to the point of ridiculousness...
Sometimes it can be difficult to keep up with who we're invading this year....
30 Apr 04
Originally posted by chancremechanicLet's see...
Rest easy...they'll be dealt with according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which in some cases is more harsh than civil jurisdiction. They (Guards) should, and will, get the punishment they deserve...even taliban scum shouldn't be humiliated to the point of ridiculousness...
1. Taliban?? Who are you invading and what are you brabbeling about?
2.What's so wrong with the Taliban?
Do you mean they were opposed to women's rights, opposed to abortion and opposed to women having sex before marriage?
Do you mean they were opposed to men drinking alcohol and beating their women?
Do you mean the Taliban supported terrorism, just like the US does in 'the school of the America's' back in Georgia?
I fail to see where the 'scum' part fits in...
30 Apr 04
Originally posted by shrewMilitary trials are never public, there's nothing sneaky about that. But actually, that doesn't mean they'll get off lightly.
It will be interesting to see if the American troops "suspended for mistreating Iraqi prisoners will face any kind of trial or if it will be dealt with in secret by the American Army?
I think (but am not sure) that, in theory, death penalty is allowed in military courts.
01 May 04
Originally posted by shavixmirI see now you support the Taliban. Why don't you do everybody a favor and OD somewhere. And go ahead and talk about my mother and wife again like you always do because you sure as heck wouldn't do it to my face you little twerp.
Let's see...
1. Taliban?? Who are you invading and what are you brabbeling about?
2.What's so wrong with the Taliban?
Do you mean they were opposed to women's rights, opposed to abortion and opposed to women having sex before marriage?
Do you mean they were opposed to men drinking alcohol and beating their women?
Do you mean the Taliban ...[text shortened]... chool of the America's' back in Georgia?
I fail to see where the 'scum' part fits in...
01 May 04
Originally posted by flexmoreHey Flex,
I don't understand ........ there is massive incentive for WMDs to be discovered in iraq - but there are none found!
i expected either genuine or planted evidence to prove that sadam's WMDs existed - regardless of the truth.
this could be planted by high level action (bush, rumsfeld etc) or by any level right down to the most junior levels of the us ...[text shortened]... is an honesty there which most of us in the rest of the world did not expect?
- i hope so !
🙂
I have confidence that the Coalition military forces are all professional. If not, we wouldn't have caught the goof-off guards who were mis-treating prisoners. The fact that one good person cared enough to rat them out speaks volumes. I can assure you that any military force lives on trust between people. This trust can't extend to your mates if it is abused on the external world. Group trust demands absolute integrity.
I think and I hope that the US military and the Civilian leadership will not tell lies. That just wouldn't be acceptable.
04 May 04
Rest easy...they'll be dealt with according to the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which in some cases is more harsh than civil jurisdiction. They (Guards) should, and will, get the punishment they deserve...even taliban scum shouldn't be humiliated to the point of ridiculousness...No doubt the Guards will be punished -but what were their officers doing?
How far does this go? Was this understandable over-enthusiasm or a condoned form of mental pressure to get information?
04 May 04
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Originally posted by shavixmirOK, I made a typo....excuse the **&* out of me...!! 🙄
Let's see...
1. Taliban?? Who are you invading and what are you brabbeling about?
2.What's so wrong with the Taliban?
Do you mean they were opposed to women's rights, opposed to abortion and opposed to women having sex before ...[text shortened]... in Georgia?
I fail to see where the 'scum' part fits in...
04 May 04
Originally posted by RedmikeTaliban-Schmaliban....same friggin animal...they wear a tablecloth on their head...get my drift? The point is that they (soldiers) will get due punishment when everything is investigated....🙄
Minor issue, but the prisoners weren't taleban. That was Afganistan - this is Iraq.
Sometimes it can be difficult to keep up with who we're invading this year....
04 May 04
Originally posted by shrewGot to give some credit to the Americans. The pictures were published by their media - a less tolerant society would have hushed it up. Ever wondered why we didn't see pictures coming out of that prison a year ago? Or any other Middle Eastern prison?
If Saddam had WMD'S America and its "allies" would never had invaded! It's because he did'nt have WMD'S or at least any that were a real threat to the West that we were able to invade. It will be interesting to see if the American troops "suspended for mist ...[text shortened]... risoners will face any kind of trial or if it will be dealt with in secret by the American Army?
04 May 04
yes the press do get it right sometimes just wish they were not politicaly bias. Plus every winner of the letter of the week always agrees with there thinking. Just a bit cynical. One point i know the millitary have there own justice system but the men and wemen who started this should be tried under law so they get a fair hearing.
04 May 04
Originally posted by steerpikeThank You, Steerpike....finally someone who looks at both sides of the coin...🙂
Got to give some credit to the Americans. The pictures were published by their media - a less tolerant society would have hushed it up. Ever wondered why we didn't see pictures coming out of that prison a year ago? Or any other Middle Eastern prison?
05 May 04
Originally posted by slimjimI see the irony of my comments went over your head.
I see now you support the Taliban. Why don't you do everybody a favor and OD somewhere. And go ahead and talk about my mother and wife again like you always do because you sure as heck wouldn't do it to my face you little twerp.
Don't worry about it though, I'm sure it happens all the time.
If it makes you feel any better though, if you pop over to Holland, we can have a beer and a joint together and I'll be more than glad to tell you anything you want to your face.
Hugs and kisses,