12 Dec 06
Originally posted by Bosse de NageWell the west by its policies has effectively created mobs the world over for us civilized folk to be scared enough of to create a hell of a lot of jobs by going over to blast the crap out of them.
Well, Nazism is simply a case of mob creation in the guise of job creation. Has it got to that stage yet anywhere?
12 Dec 06
Originally posted by kmax87Man, your posts are even more long-winded than mine. I'm going to have to take some style tips from you.
Trying to draw too many direct parallels between Democracy and Nazism will always seem a bit stretched and a bit inadequate, one particular aspect of the comparison that I thought bore more than a passing resemblance to each other, was in the ease with which the will of government to engage in violence against an enemy was enacted relative to the degree of fr ...[text shortened]... e of personal freedom that they had at their disposal under the respective national governments.
12 Dec 06
Originally posted by rwingettWithout too much immodesty it is a practiced art based on that fine American political tradition the filibuster. You could also call it double speak without a safety net. Not recommended for amateurs, though it may be attempted in the presence of a professional should the urge to convolute grip one with an overwhelming desire to ramble endlessly without any distinct destination in sight.
Man, your posts are even more long-winded than mine. I'm going to have to take some style tips from you.
12 Dec 06
Originally posted by kmax87In my humble opinion, America and the West can not dispatch its enemies efficiently since warfare has been taken over by scholars, lawyers and the editorial staff at the New York Times. We need to give war a chance!
In the sense of an appeal to a natural superiority and a belief in a manifest providential destiny that legitimates her taking a position astride the Globe where those who are considered non persons are exterminated with the utmost disregard for their humanity.
Chemical warfare and carpet bombing in Vietnam and Cambodia and the recent wars in Iraq starting ...[text shortened]... of extreme prejudice with which this paragon of western civilization would dispatch its enemies.
14 Dec 06
"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, its the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and its always a simple matter to drag the people along whether its a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to do the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
- Herrmann Göring at the Nuremberg Trials
DISCLAIMER: I am NOT a Nazi, but this quote is here because it was said by a Nazi. The point is that people of a nation are gullible regardless the form of government and therefore can be guiled into doing things they believe good for their country despite any confilct against their morals and values. Think about your place in that paradigm. Think HARD!!
15 Dec 06
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Originally posted by kmax87Democracy isn't the new "Nazism". If liberalism will adopt the old ideas of eugenics, including artificial birth control, abortion, euthanasia, sterilisation, and the idea of human selection, and believe me they are seriously working on it, then liberalism will be the new "Nazism".
As America's influence and hegemonic position become more entrenched are we seeing a move towards absolute tyranny as evidenced by the war against Iraq?
..... they are indeed working very hard to change "old" liberalism to "new" liberalism and thus creating the next totalitarian ideology.
16 Dec 06
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Originally posted by kmax87That's just Bush. Don't worry, he'll be out in a couple years and all this bs will be over. Watch us become isolationists again. We'll stop being the policeman of the world.
In the sense of an appeal to a natural superiority and a belief in a manifest providential destiny that legitimates her taking a position astride the Globe where those who are considered non persons are exterminated with the utmost disregard for their humanity.
Chemical warfare and carpet bombing in Vietnam and Cambodia and the recent wars in Iraq starting ...[text shortened]... of extreme prejudice with which this paragon of western civilization would dispatch its enemies.
Only Bush has this destiny problem. it's not shared among the populace.
Trust me, things will get better and you'll stop fearing and hating us.
Vietnam was a long time ago...we've shaken that albatross.
18 Dec 06
Originally posted by badmoonThe thing is I don't fear or hate you guys. But the fact that the people can calmly sit through 8 atrocious years and resignedly say well don't worry we'll soon be back like you like us is sort of even further damning proof of the powerlessness of the individual in your democracy and how much like under Nazism the general populace is swept along without a voice.
Trust me, things will get better and you'll stop fearing and hating us.
18 Dec 06
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Originally posted by kmax87Can't argue with you there. People have turned to MySpace to voice ther issues. In the US, the country is the government; the government is the country. If you voice concerns with the government you are traitor simply because of that concept. Although this is supposed to be a government of the people, that myth left us a long time ago. Do the French define themselves by their government? The Aussies? Well, we sure do over here.
The thing is I don't fear or hate you guys. But the fact that the people can calmly sit through 8 atrocious years and resignedly say well don't worry we'll soon be back like you like us is sort of even further damning proof of the powerlessness of the individual in your democracy and how much like under Nazism the general populace is swept along without a voice.