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They have these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-31A#DF-31A
Wouldn't want one pointed at your house

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Originally posted by mrstabby
They have these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-31A#DF-31A
Wouldn't want one pointed at your house
"It is operated by the Second Artillery Corps (SAC) which is estimated to have under 10 missiles in inventory by the end of 2007[1]"

"In early 2008 the US Defense Department reported to Congress that under 10 DF-31A missiles had been deployed."

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Originally posted by whodey
Well, not exactly. China is much more than a threat to the US militarily. China is currently a vital thread interwoven into the American economy. If China were to attack the US on an economic level it would be catastrophic for the US.

Also, as pointed out, Tibet may be oil rich. However, the differnece here is that the US is dependent currently on Midd ...[text shortened]... est involved helping the poor and oppressed they would have been in the Sudan as of yesterday!!!
And the US is an economic threat to China as well. So what?

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Originally posted by zeeblebot
"It is operated by the Second Artillery Corps (SAC) which is estimated to have under 10 missiles in inventory by the end of 2007[1]"

"In early 2008 the US Defense Department reported to Congress that under 10 DF-31A missiles had been deployed."
I think China pulling it's money out of your Federal banks would be a much easier way of defeating America.

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Originally posted by shavixmir
I'm sooooo glad we've got your ilk on our side...
You don't have a side.

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Originally posted by huckleberryhound
I think China pulling it's money out of your Federal banks would be a much easier way of defeating America.
could they get it all out at once, before the value dropped so much it wouldn't be worth it? what would they do with dollars that were worth a dime each all of a sudden?

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Originally posted by duecer
err sorry no! FAIL!

http://www.gasandoil.com/goc/news/ntn20664.htm
Estimated 2 to 2.5 trillion barrels of oil in the oil shale reserves under Colorado, Utah, Wyoming. Thats 8 times whats in the ME. Now, lets add what is off the California coast , in ANWR etc. where the environmental facists don't want us to explore.

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
And the US is an economic threat to China as well. So what?
Econmic armageddon. That's what.

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Originally posted by london nick
The timing of the Tibet invasion was soon after the Second World War in a remote, and after the break up of the Empire a strategically unimportant, region of the world, which would have been a logistical nightmare to conduct a war in.

Also as I discovered recently (in the other thread) Tibet was historically a part of China, which may have been a fac ...[text shortened]... ents supported the communists.

Kuwait was/is a western ally in a very important (oil) region.
how is 1959 soon after WWII?

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
Depends on what you mean by "took on" China. If we tried to occupy Tibet it would be tough. But I'd like to see China occupy land the US claims as territory!

We'd beat China on neutral ground. It all depends.
actually, right now you couldn't beat anyone. your military is slightly occupied elsewhere. so you guys better finish the last war, before starting a new one (like iran and n.korea). this might actually be why iran doesn't seem to care about us threats. they know that it is unrealistic right now.

and this is of course disregarding the economy bit. china could crash your economy in 2 seconds flat if they wanted to.

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Originally posted by mbakunin
how is 1959 soon after WWII?
1959 is when the Dalai Lama left.

China first went in in 1950

http://www.tibet.com/whitepaper/white2.html

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Originally posted by FabianFnas
This is one important point. Oil.
Kuweit has oil, Tibet has not.
So is this all about oil?

If a country doesn't have oil it is okay to go in and take over, and every one says "Well, they have no oil so why care?". Sweden, along most of the states in US has no oil either. "Come on and grab it, noone will care!"
I don't think it's just about oil. I'd expect the US (and most countries) to go to the aid of an ally. Although how strong an ally Kuwait would be without oil is, of course, open to question.

You are talking of two different invasions with very different contexts.

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Originally posted by mrstabby
They have these
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DF-31A#DF-31A
Wouldn't want one pointed at your house
Dat no wocket. Dat big Chinee cig-cig. Chinee people take turn smoking it. Second hand smokie float across big pond an cause all Mericans to drop dead o cancer. Chinee got no weal wockets. Do Day?
O do da day!


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Originally posted by london nick
I don't think it's just about oil. I'd expect the US (and most countries) to go to the aid of an ally. Although how strong an ally Kuwait would be without oil is, of course, open to question.

You are talking of two different invasions with very different contexts.
Some Americans thought (including Bush?) that they come and rescue Kuweit of the sake of democracy. Does Kuweit have democracy today?

I say the reason was oil.

Why I compare Kuweit with Tibet, was a notion (somewhere in this thread, or elsewhere) that China has the right of Tibet, because Tibet was (once) a part of China. Kuweit was (once, in a sense) part of Iraq, therefore Saddam thought he was right to bring in Kuweit into Iraq again. In this context China has an abolute right of Taiwan too... And Denmark of Skåne... And Mexico of Texas... And Germany of Namibia...

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