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@jimm619 saidWhat I have written are established facts. That you don’t know that tells me you’re not getting your “news” from credible news organizations.
NO LINKS,
NO FACTS,
OPINION,
MENDACITY,
PUSILLANIMOUS............ 😛
Maybe go somewhere other than republicanssuck.org and CNN for info?
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@pb1022 saidLINK?
What I have written are established facts. That you don’t know that tells me you’re not getting your “news” from credible news organizations.
Maybe go somewhere other than republicanssuck.org and CNN for info?
Established facts, you say>?
Post a link........Should be easy...........RIGHT, SKIPPY?
Can't find any links to 'established facts?'
Now, that would be curious...wouldn't it, SKIPPY?
.................hello?.............anyone home?
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@jimm619 saidWhy waste my time, Jimbo?
LINK?
Established facts, you say>?
Post a link........Should be easy...........RIGHT, SKIPPY?
Can't find any links to 'established facts?'
Now, that would be curious...wouldn't it, SKIPPY?
.................hello?.............anyone home?
I have nothing to prove to you, and if I provided a link, you’d just say the source was biased.
Not playing your silly little games, Jimbo,
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@pb1022 saidTalk is cheap,
Why waste my time, Jimbo?
I have nothing to prove to you, and if I provided a link, you’d just say the source was biased.
Not playing your silly little games, Jimbo,
try me, SKIPPY
I gave you credit for Snopes.
Unlike some, am not narrow minded
and I NEVER DENY FACTS or the TRUTH.
Are you able to say the same?
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@jimm619 saidWhat do you dispute?
Talk is cheap,
try me, SKIPPY
I gave you credit for Snopes.
Unlike some, am not narrow minded
and I NEVER DENY FACTS or the TRUTH.
Are you able to say the same?
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@pb1022 saidHuh?
What do you dispute?
You contend that TRUMP
followed Fauci's advise.
I showed you, twice, that this was NOT TRUE,
you have yet to show me ANY EVIDENCE supporting your claim.
This is EXACTLY what you said;
''...Well Fauci advised Trump and Trump did everything he said.....''
''......And I think many believe Trump botched the pandemic response when it was Fauci who screwed up the response as he was advising Trump and Trump did everything he said........''
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@jimm619 saidIn Fauci’s own words…
Huh?
You contend that TRUMP
followed Fauci's advise.
I showed you, twice, that this was NOT TRUE,
you have yet to show me ANY EVIDENCE supporting your claim.
This is EXACTLY what you said;
''...Well Fauci advised Trump and Trump did everything he said.....''
''......And I think many believe Trump botched the pandemic response when it was Fauci who screwed up the response as he was advising Trump and Trump did everything he said........''
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@pb1022 saidThis, the Dr. says, is a hypothetical situation
In Fauci’s own words…
https://youtu.be/vJEdpRn-nR0
that he wanted to clarify. Even aside, the Dr.
is referring to one situation.......
Given this, was TRUMP, himself lying
when he said
Speaking on Fox News' The Ingraham Angle show Thursday, the former U.S. president rehashed talking points from his time in office and said: "If you really look, I didn't listen to him too much because I was doing the opposite of what he was saying."
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-didnt-listen-anthony-fauci-fox-news-ingraham-angle-interview-1578980
Former President Donald Trump said he ignored Dr. Anthony Fauci's advice on handling the pandemic.
"I listened to him, but I didn't do what he said," Trump said in a new podcast interview.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-listened-anthony-fauci-but-didnt-do-what-he-said-2021-3?op=1
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@jimm619 saidDid you watch the whole video?
This, the Dr. says, is a hypothetical situation
that he wanted to clarify. Even aside, the Dr.
is referring to one situation.......
Given this, was TRUMP, himself lying
when he said
Speaking on Fox News' The Ingraham Angle show Thursday, the former U.S. president rehashed talking points from his time in office and said: "If you really look, I didn't listen to him too muc ...[text shortened]...
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-listened-anthony-fauci-but-didnt-do-what-he-said-2021-3?op=1
Fauci *starts off* by saying he wants to address the hypothetical but then goes on to say Trump concurred with and implemented a whole series of his recommendations.
And Trump is *your* source? The guy you claim lies all the time?
Even when Fauci says something in his own words on camera, you won’t admit it’s true.
You’re a dishonest partisan hack, Jimbo, and it’s a waste of time trying to have a serious discussion with you
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@pb1022 saidThen they spoke of travel bans...
Did you watch the whole video?
Fauci *starts off* by saying he wants to address the hypothetical but then goes on to say Trump concurred with and implemented a whole series of his recommendations.
And Trump is *your* source? The guy you claim lies all the time?
Even when Fauci says something in his own words on camera, you won’t admit it’s true.
You’re a dishonest partisan hack, Jimbo, and it’s a waste of time trying to have a serious discussion with you
A hypothetical, he wanted to clear up,
one instance.......good evidence though, I'll give you that.
How do you explain, TRUMP, himself, saying that
' I didn't listen to Fauci...?'
@sh76 saidCOVID minimization thread 1247 started by the same poster.
This is for you, No1. From the one and only @TheLawyerCraig.
https://twitter.com/TheLawyerCraig/status/1491839322701680644
[quote]
Craig
@TheLawyerCraig
Want to see what long-tailed death reporting looks like? Let's look at Missouri. MO has reported 384 deaths in the past week (confirmed and probable, per NYT), with 272 of those falling on 2/8, reported yesterday. When ...[text shortened]... ke off until mid-December) won't really be reflected until mid-February.
I stand by all of those.
A lot of complete guesswork in the non-medical professional blog you are relying on. The fact that rather few deaths reported in one State are from the last few weeks proves nothing as I've pointed out on previous occasions; more deaths will be reported in those time frames in the future.
Your continued insistence that omicron is no worse than the flu was blown up in a prior thread (which you conveniently abandoned) when I showed that in this flu season even a COVID vaccinated person had at least a 10 times greater chance of dying (and perhaps up to 30 times greater chance of death) from COVID than the flu. Unfortunately, your constant habit of refusing to engage in the relevant thread and instead starting new ones with the same, tired debunked arguments makes it necessary to play whack a mole over and over again.
It's of course likely that deaths will fall now that cases are falling, not because omicron is so non-serious vaccinated persons are "invulnerable" to it as you stupidly claimed. It was also pretty predictable that cases would fall after the effects of gatherings for the holidays declined, so don't break your arm patting yourself on the back for "predicting" the obvious esp. when you "predicted" it for the wrong reasons.
EDIT: Here's an interesting story partially about a county in Missouri where the Republican coroner refuses to acknowledge any COVID deaths. https://missouriindependent.com/2021/12/22/uncounted-inaccurate-death-certificates-across-the-country-hide-the-true-toll-of-covid-19/
EDIT: From my last post in the "1918 Pandemic Protests" thread:
For what it's worth, CDC estimates of flu deaths for this flu season from October 1, 2021 through January 29, 2022 are 1,200 to 3,500. https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
That's a paltry number compared to COVID deaths which were about 183,000. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
And if 13.4% of those deaths were among the vaccinated, it would suggest they have at least a 10 times and possibly 30 times higher chance of dying from COVID than the flu.
12 Feb 22
As for Sh76's constant attempts to get more people to catch COVID by denigrating the effectiveness of masking:
"Statistical analysis showed that the odds of infection were about half for people who reported wearing a mask in public compared with people who didn’t. (Results of this study are reported in terms of “odds ratios” which are related to relative risk, but not quite the same thing.) For people who wore masks “all of the time” (instead of “some of the time” or “most of the time&rdquo😉 the estimated effect was even more significant."
https://www.forbes.com/sites/johndrake/2022/02/04/the-real-world-effectiveness-of-face-masks-against-covid-19/?sh=241ee0391d08
12 Feb 22
@jimm619 saidOf course he's vaxxed. And he wears a mask when required by the proprietor. I do the same.
Do I need to?
Do you still beat your wife?
To be honest, I don't know that the LAWYER,
is really giving ANY MEDICAL advice....
@TheLawyerCraig
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5/ I don't personally have a dog in this fight. My son's a teen and generally unbothered. I don't really give a **** about walking the 19 feet to my dinner table whilst masked, despite the silliness.
Craig .............Seems as he wears a mask, probably vaxxed too.
I'm not sure why that renders his post any more or less worthy of attention.
12 Feb 22
More recent mask stuff:
"In a study appearing today in the Journal of Infectious Diseases, the researchers found that face masks reduce the distance airborne pathogens could travel, when speaking or coughing, by more than half compared to not wearing a mask.
The findings are important as airborne viral pathogens, such as SARS-CoV-2, can be encapsulated and transmitted through liquid droplets and aerosols formed during human respiratory functions such as speaking and coughing."
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/01/220112121559.htm