Landlords Win.

@averagejoe1 said
Well, you could make an appropriate distinction between a ‘home’, being the abode of a tenant in a rental house, ….it is his home,…..and the house, which is the landlord’s house.

Thank you for helping me correct EoT's misconception.

@athousandyoung said
That's because wealthy people were financially encouraged to compete with the poor for housing and simultaneously the same wealthy people were financially encouraged to keep wages as low as possible i.e. the wealthy were legally, financially incentivized to prevent the poor and middle class from owning their own homes which made it impossible for those people to do so.

That is because poor people did not have the financial means to buy the property.

@eladar said
GW tried to push a program to give loans to poor people. We had a huge crash in the market with a flood of defaulted loans.

Very very true.

@eladar said
That is because poor people did not have the financial means to buy the property.

Kinda like how the Irish didn’t have the financial means to buy food.

BECAUSE OF capitalist investors using the government to compete with the Irish people for food!

@techsouth said
For most of my adult life, I would agree that I personally have preferred to own rather than rent.

However, that has not always been the case. Other times I have preferred to rent because I didn't want to be tied down.

Do you have a problem with my using freedom in that way?

Who, me?!?!?!?! Enjoying Freedom 😉 is what keeps us alive. Go for it.
It was refreshing to see someone type the word freedom. I have often challenged libs to use the word together with Independence and Liberty. Can you believe that not one has ever done so?
They toss and turn, chew on their pillow, they just can’t do it. 🇱🇷

@athousandyoung said
Kinda like how the Irish didn’t have the financial means to buy food.

BECAUSE OF capitalist investors using the government to compete with the Irish people for food!

We will see if a communist revolution can bring down the rich and allow the poor to squat on land.

@eladar said
That is because poor people did not have the financial means to buy the property.

When y’all say something like this, are you implying that they will ‘always’ be poor and ‘never’ own a house? I know there are a lot houses for sale, and I know that one can plan, and make and save money, and buy a house. It happened hundreds of times just today. So, setting that obvious concept aside, what are you implying?

@eladar said
We will see if a communist revolution can bring down the rich and allow the poor to squat on land.

No need. Communism didn’t free the slaves in the USA and it didn’t feed the Irish.

@athousandyoung said
Thank you for helping me correct EoT's misconception.

Legal-eze trumps liberal-eze.

@averagejoe1 said
When y’all say something like this, are you implying that they will ‘always’ be poor and ‘never’ own a house? I know there are a lot houses for sale, and I know that one can plan, and make and save money, and buy a house. It happened hundreds of times just today. So, setting that obvious concept aside, what are you implying?

And slaves could buy their freedom and even buy slaves themselves!

@athousandyoung said
No need. Communism didn’t free the slaves in the USA and it didn’t feed the Irish.

The Irish seem to be doing OK in the US. At least the ones who can crawl out of their bottles.

@averagejoe1 said
Who, me?!?!?!?! Enjoying Freedom 😉 is what keeps us alive. Go for it.
It was refreshing to see someone type the word freedom. I have often challenged libs to use the word together with Independence and Liberty. Can you believe that not one has ever done so?
They toss and turn, chew on their pillow, they just can’t do it. 🇱🇷

I wasn't asking you whether you'd have a problem. It was ATY.

But now that you mention it, there are a handful of people here that are totally off the scale on how much they abhor free people making free choices.

To me, an employer/employee relationship is presumed to be a win-win in most circumstances. And a buyer/seller are also normally operating in a win-win transaction as long as both a free people. Same with a landlord/renter. The people on this forum see everything through a lens that seems only capable of seeing win-lose in all choices people make that don't involve government coercion. I baffled because history seems to be clear on what a disaster that always turns out to be in the long run.

@techsouth said
The people on this forum see everything through a lens that seems only capable of seeing win-lose in all choices people make that don't involve government coercion.

That's because most people on this forum are damnyanks. It's been burned into the soul of the country since 1776.