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Originally posted by no1marauder
[b]I'm still unclear when banks were forced to make "high risk" mortgages. This is a common right wing claim with no data to support it.
The CRA act of 1977.

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Originally posted by whodey
The CRA act of 1977.
LMAO!

We've went through this before. A law passed in 1977 supposedly caused a financial crisis all of a sudden in 2008?

Surely even you aren't deluded enough to believe that whopper.

BTW, there's nothing in the CRA requiring banks to make "hgh risk" mortgages.

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Originally posted by no1marauder

At any rate, there have been economic downturns with reasonably high rates of foreclosure before and no financial crisis. However, the financial industry never cranked out 64 TRILLION dollars of securities based on mortgages before.[/b]
So let me guess, you only blame the corporations and Republicans for not regulating them?

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Originally posted by no1marauder
LMAO!

We've went through this before. A law passed in 1977 supposedly caused a financial crisis all of a sudden in 2008?

Surely even you aren't deluded enough to believe that whopper.
Crazy huh? You would think it would happen overnight.

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Originally posted by whodey
So let me guess, you only blame the corporations and Republicans for not regulating them?
I'm perfectly willing to accept that both of the big money parties have adopted policies that favored the rich in the last 25 years (well for more than that, but it's been really bad in the last 25 years or so). These policies have led, predictably, to economic hardship for the average American.

The question is now who's going to change these policies? A stubborn insistence that any type of tax increase on the rich is out of bounds isn't a good start.

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Originally posted by whodey
Crazy huh? You would think it would happen overnight.
Perhaps you could produce a reason when it took 30 years for this law to create such a mess.

As between a law passed in 1977 that didn't force anyone to fund a "high risk" mortgage and policies in the 2000's that created untold trillions of dollars worth of securities sensitive to even a small rise in foreclosure rates, I think the latter is a far more reasonable answer as to the cause of the financial crisis.

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Here's an interesting study for you that concludes:

To a much greater extent than other lenders, CRA Banks avoided
making the types of home purchase mortgage loans that provoked the
foreclosure crisis.

http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS135259+07-Jan-2008+BW20080107

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Originally posted by no1marauder
I'm perfectly willing to accept that both of the big money parties have adopted policies that favored the rich in the last 25 years (well for more than that, but it's been really bad in the last 25 years or so). These policies have led, predictably, to economic hardship for the average American.

The question is now who's going to change ...[text shortened]... rn insistence that any type of tax increase on the rich is out of bounds isn't a good start.
Well I am glad to hear you are not on a partisan crusade like others on these threads.

As for a tax increase, how about waiting until the economic crisis is averted? As counterintuitive as it may be for liberals, this is NOT the time. There is a time a place for everything.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
[b]Perhaps you could produce a reason when it took 30 years for this law to create such a mess.
The same reason that I think social security will go bust. It has taken years upon years to get where we are now and if nothing is done it will make the credit crisis a walk through the park. It all has to do with entitlements rather than economic common sense. I think the deregulation during the Clinton years accelerated this problem.

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Originally posted by no1marauder
LMAO!


Surely even you aren't deluded enough to believe that whopper.

no need to be such a loudmouth

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Originally posted by no1marauder
You're an idiot. Do you know what "socialism" even means?
Better be careful. If you correct someone in such harsh terms, they might call you a loudmouth.

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Originally posted by der schwarze Ritter
Nonsense. What's sad is how many Americans are willing to trade their hard-won rights for Bismarkian cradle-to-grave welfare.
No, what is sad is how many Americans are willing to trade their hard-won rights for crap like the Patriot Act.

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Originally posted by Badwater
No, what is sad is how many Americans are willing to trade their hard-won rights for crap like the Patriot Act.
Americans will do what they are told. After all, that is why we send the jokers to Washington for, right?

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Originally posted by KazetNagorra
I've always been intrigued by Americans' fear of government. Perhaps I can find out here where it comes from.
George III

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Originally posted by AThousandYoung
George III
Good old George.
Yeah... he never did much good to the Scot's either.
Didn't seem to make them paranoid though...

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