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@metal-brain said
Unvaccinated people are not killing other people. Vaccinated people spread the virus just as much as the unvaccinated and you know it. You lie just as much as Rachel Maddow.

STOP SPREADING DISINFORMATION!
No they don't. The unvaccinated are far more likely to catch COVID and thus spread it:

"According to data from 25 state and local health departments, adults who were unvaccinated against COVID-19 as the omicron variant emerged in December had nearly three times higher risk of infection than adults fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and five times higher risk than adults who had received a booster, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported today."

https://www.aha.org/news/headline/2022-01-21-cdc-unvaccinated-adults-3-5-times-more-likely-get-omicron-infection

This is the type of data that COVID minimizers like Sh76 and anti-vaxxers like yourself don't want to discuss.

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@no1marauder said
No they don't. The unvaccinated are far more likely to catch COVID and thus spread it:

"According to data from 25 state and local health departments, adults who were unvaccinated against COVID-19 as the omicron variant emerged in December had nearly three times higher risk of infection than adults fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and five times higher risk than adults ...[text shortened]... e type of data that COVID minimizers like Sh76 and anti-vaxxers like yourself don't want to discuss.
Natural immunity ‘gives better protection against Covid delta variant than vaccines alone’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/natural-immunity-gives-better-protection-212744441.html

https://www.westernjournal.com/thanks-foia-request-cdc-just-made-biggest-admission-covid-yet/

You are still spinning your wheels. You have no proof unvaccinated people are spreading the SARS2 virus more than the vaccinated. That study you posted ignores important factors like behavior. Behavior has just as much to do with spread as viral load, which is the same with the omicron variant.

If an employer requires unvaccinated employees to wear face masks, but not the vaccinated how does that affect the spread?

Show me a study that measures spread in the real world.

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@metal-brain said
https://rumble.com/vt1qmq-dana-white-schools-journalist-on-covid-treatments.html

Monoclonal Antibodies are FDA authorized, so why is it so hard to get the option now? Isn't there a deliberate suppression of it?

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/fda-expands-authorization-two-monoclonal-antibodies-treatment-and-post-exposure-prevention-covid-19

S ...[text shortened]... ortant than anything else. I prefer to let the covidians drink their cool aid and observe from afar.
In fact you seem to be inconsequent.

The FDA has issued an Emergency Use Authorization for

a) mRNA vaccines (and other vaccines) against SRAS-CoV-2
b) 3 kinds of monoclonal antibodies against SARS-CoV-2.

As you never tire to stress an EUA does not constitute an approval, how comes that you want the one over the others?

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@metal-brain said
Natural immunity ‘gives better protection against Covid delta variant than vaccines alone’

https://www.yahoo.com/news/natural-immunity-gives-better-protection-212744441.html

https://www.westernjournal.com/thanks-foia-request-cdc-just-made-biggest-admission-covid-yet/

You are still spinning your wheels. You have no proof unvaccinated people are spreading the SARS2 ...[text shortened]... cinated how does that affect the spread?

Show me a study that measures spread in the real world.
I just did but you can't seem to process information contrary to your nutjob conspiracy theories.

State health department data is the "real world."

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@ponderable said
In fact you seem to be inconsequent.

The FDA has issued an Emergency Use Authorization for

a) mRNA vaccines (and other vaccines) against SRAS-CoV-2
b) 3 kinds of monoclonal antibodies against SARS-CoV-2.

As you never tire to stress an EUA does not constitute an approval, how comes that you want the one over the others?
One of what over the other?

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@no1marauder said
I just did but you can't seem to process information contrary to your nutjob conspiracy theories.

State health department data is the "real world."
Did they consider change in human behavior as an important factor?
If not, that is not the real world.

Does it? Yes or no?

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@metal-brain said
One of what over the other?
You gave rise to the impression that you want a broader distribution of monoclonal antibodies.

You are opposed to vaccines with an EUA, but you are pro mAB with an EUA? Where is the logic?

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@ponderable said
You gave rise to the impression that you want a broader distribution of monoclonal antibodies.

You are opposed to vaccines with an EUA, but you are pro mAB with an EUA? Where si the logic?
People have the choice to take the gene vaccines if they want to. People should also have the choice not to take them. My body, my choice. Democrats used to believe in that with abortion. Now they have abandoned that principal in favor of policies that don't make any sense. The gene vaccines do not stop the spread of the virus and they don't slow the spread either.

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@no1marauder said
No they don't. The unvaccinated are far more likely to catch COVID and thus spread it:

"According to data from 25 state and local health departments, adults who were unvaccinated against COVID-19 as the omicron variant emerged in December had nearly three times higher risk of infection than adults fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and five times higher risk than adults ...[text shortened]... e type of data that COVID minimizers like Sh76 and anti-vaxxers like yourself don't want to discuss.
Your source is the CDC which has been proven to rig data and rely on their own rigged data to get rigged studies. Rigged data results in rigged studies. How many times do I have to tell you that? You know the definition to insanity. Posting rigged studies (because of rigged data) over and over again expecting different results is insanity.

Address this topic in the proper thread.

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/did-gene-vaccines-ever-stop-the-spread.191793

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@metal-brain said
Your source is the CDC which has been proven to rig data and rely on their own rigged data to get rigged studies. Rigged data results in rigged studies. How many times do I have to tell you that? You know the definition to insanity. Posting rigged studies (because of rigged data) over and over again expecting different results is insanity.

Address this topic in the pro ...[text shortened]... er thread.

https://www.redhotpawn.com/forum/debates/did-gene-vaccines-ever-stop-the-spread.191793
I already did; turn to page 4 of that thread and read the first two posts by myself and quackquack.

I see no reason to disregard the CDC's compilation of State health departments data just because a nutty conspiracy theorist doesn't like it debunking his false beliefs.

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@no1marauder said
I already did; turn to page 4 of that thread and read the first two posts by myself and quackquack.

I see no reason to disregard the CDC's compilation of State health departments data just because a nutty conspiracy theorist doesn't like it debunking his false beliefs.
I already proved the CDC rigged data in several different ways. I even used the CDC website itself for most of that proof. You are in denial of reality. You are in psychosis.

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